Blowing the Whistle, Chpt. 5: Tracking the Crack in the Universe (Loosh 101)

This is the fifth chapter in an online book, “Blowing the Whistle on Enlightenment: Confessions of a New Age Heretic,” by Bronte Baxter.

Did you ever wonder why a good God would build a world where the only way to survive is by taking life? How long would you stay alive if you refused to eat? You may love animals and grow plants inside your home and flowers in your garden, but every time you eat, you destroy the life of something. A something with a consciousness, that feels and desires to live, as we do.

The other day I grabbed an onion from a basket to chop up, and I saw it had sprouted a beautiful, tender, light-green shoot. It had a life inside it, a consciousness that wanted to take root, breathe air and thrive. Any tears in chopping that onion did not come from the fumes.

I’m not a sentimentalist. I’m a person questioning, increasingly aware of an insidious thread woven through biological life. We are born, we feed, and we die. Life is a process of consuming other living things in order to stay alive as long as possible until death in turn consumes us. We tell ourselves life is a whole lot more, but it’s reduced to that as long as we must feed to survive. If we can’t stay alive more than a few months without food, how can eating not be fundamental to how we define our existence?

Eating is a requirement for biological life as we know it. It’s the thread that holds together material existence. More than a thread, it’s a chain, binding us to the law that we must consume each other. Rebelling is punishable by death.

What kind of God or gods would create a world predicated on killing? We don’t like to ask that, and we find every excuse to avoid looking at this question. But every time a dear one dies, or you find a nibbled bird in the yard destroyed by an idle cat, or you read about an animal that has suffered mercilessly, or another molested child, or a nation ravaged by a quake that’s buried thousands of living people, your mind goes back to that nagging question. Who would make a world like this? Was it truly a God of love?

According to much evidence, it wasn’t. The world was created by something else. Or if it was created by the loving God our hearts insist exists, then creation has been tampered with by someone else so merciless that it barely resembles the original divine vision. The biological universe is controlled by the law that to live we must take life or die. That is sinister. Something there is that makes us have to eat, that makes us age and disintegrate. This is the “something wrong with the world,” the crack in the universe. Knowledge of it works “like a splinter in the mind, driving you mad,” quoting “The Matrix.” Yet awakening to the truth of our predicament is the first step toward radical change. Only radical change can possibly right the fundamental flaw woven into physical creation.

And how well-woven it is. Not only does violence wind through the lives of all Earth life like the fibers of a time-bomb attached to a victim. It reaches out into space, where supernovas implode, collapsing millions of stars along with all living beings on all their attendant planets. Death and devouring are so pervasive most people can’t conceive of a world without them, or if they can conceive it, they label the concept preposterous. Yet quantum physics shows that matter is nothing but atoms: emptiness vibrating. Emptiness does not die and neither does the energy it oscillates. So why must bodies die that are made of up of these things?

Robert Monroe, in his book “Far Journeys,” writes of contact he had with a light being in an out-of-body experience. (Monroe is arguably the world’s foremost researcher on OBEs; he started an institute with trainee/researchers to scientifically investigate the phenomenon.) Reportedly the light being told Monroe that when humans die, their energy is released and harvested by trans-dimensional beings, who use it to extend their own life spans. The claim is that the universe is a garden created by these beings as their food source.

According to Monroe’s story, animals are intentionally positioned on this planet to feed on plants and on each other, thereby releasing the life force of their victims so it can be harvested. In a predator-prey struggle, exceptional energy is produced in the combatants. The spilling of blood in a fight-to-the-death conflict releases this intense energy, which the light beings call “loosh.” Loosh is also harvested from the loneliness of animals and humans, as well as from the emotions engendered when a parent is forced to defend the life of its young. Another source of loosh is humans’ worship.

According to Monroe’s informant, our creators, the cosmic “energy farmers,” intentionally equipped animals with devices like fangs, claws and super-speed in order to prolong predator-prey combat and thereby produce more loosh. In other words, the greater the suffering, the more life force is spewed from our bodies, and the tastier the energy meal for our creators.

This story told to Monroe (which threw him into a two-week depression) corresponds to reports in some of the world’s oldest scriptures, the Vedas, Upanishads, and Puranas of India. There we read that “the universe is upheld by sacrifice” (Atharva Veda) and that “all who are living (in this world) are the sacrificers. There is none living who does not perform yagya (sacrifice). This body is (created) for sacrifice, and arises out of sacrifice and changes according to sacrifice.” (Garbha Upanishad)

Again:

“(Death as the Creator) resolved to devour all that he had created; for he eats all. . . He is the eater of the whole universe; this whole universe is his food.” (Mahabharata)

In the writings of Carlos Castaneda, who chronicles the life and teachings of a Yaquii sorcerer called Don Juan, we find another story of the Divine devouring humans, in this case human consciousness. Reports Castaneda:

“The Eagle is devouring the awareness of all the creatures that, alive on earth a moment before and now dead, have floated to the Eagle’s beak, like a ceaseless swarm of fireflies, to meet their owner, their reason for having had life. The Eagle disentangles these tiny flames, lays them flat, as a tanner stretches out a hide, and then consumes them; for awareness is the Eagle’s food. The Eagle, that power that governs the destinies of all living things, reflects equally and at once all those living things.” (“The Eagle’s Gift,” by Carlos Castaneda)

The idea that man must sacrifice (must kill something or be killed in order to appease the gods) is apparently intrinsic to all the world’s root religions. We find blood ritual, including human sacrifice, in the Druidic tradition, Tibetan Buddhism, among the Indians of the Americas, in Greece and Rome, Africa, China, Arabia, Germany, Phoenicia and Egypt. Even the Old Testament (Judges 11:31-40) has a little-advertised story of human sacrifice, with the Israelite judge Jephthah ritually slaughtering his own daughter to fulfill a vow he made to Jehovah.

While we may not think of Judaism as typically promoting human sacrifice, it more than promoted it if we count the genocide Jehovah demanded of the Hebrews. In one day alone, they murdered 12,000 Canaanites “and utterly destroyed everything in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox and sheep and donkey with the edge of the sword.”(Joshua: 6:21)

In Islam, the situation is similar. Allah, while paying lip service to the immorality of human sacrifice, orders his servants in the Koran to practice jihad against all unbelievers. “When the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.” (Koran: 9:5)

Peace-loving Moslems interpret such passages as “symbolic” in their desire to justify their faith, much as Christians try to justify Jehovah’s sociopathic behavior with excuses. In many ways, the god of Islam reasons and rants like the god of the Israelites. Could it be the same entity? It isn’t contradictory that he would support two separate peoples, then lead them to fight each other. Not if his agenda is to stimulate and harvest plenty of loosh.

Christianity, the religion of brotherly love, is implicated in blood sacrifice by being rooted in the Jewish tradition. The Bible declares Jesus is the son of God (Jehovah), and Jehovah announces at Jesus’ baptism, “This is My beloved Son in whom I am well-pleased.” (Matthew: 17:5) Where was Jesus when his father was slaughtering the Canaanites? Jesus himself becomes a blood sacrifice, a fact that Catholics reenact in the mass and that Protestants bathe themselves in to be “saved.” Christians are no strangers to sacrifice.

If suffering and death were part of creation that no one, including the gods, could help, there’d be some reason to be more forgiving. I might even buy the story that they need us to support them with our homage and we need them to keep the universe running. But when you add blood sacrifice into the equation, I abandon ship. It’s one thing if the gods can’t prevent earthly suffering and death – quite another if they seek it out and thrive from it or worse yet, created it. And that’s what blood sacrifice, and the scriptures around it, indicate.

When the oldest scriptures of the world tell us we were created as food for the gods, I have to ask myself if I want to live in a universe where that might be true. The fact is, I don’t. I can no longer give my approval to that kind of reality. So if I won’t live with it, I have to come up with something better. I have to find something more fundamental than the physical universe to locate my identity in, and my power in. I sense, as many do these days, that there’s something beyond the universe as it has been presented to us, something outside this box, outside this system. That’s what I seek to know, connect with, and draw from.

Robert Morning Sky, a truth seeker of the Hopi and Apache traditions, tells a story he learned from his people about a race of beings who knew no limitations, who existed far outside this physical universe. One day one of them declared his intention to visit Earth and take on a body just for the adventure of it, for the experience. His friends cautioned him, as this universe had a reputation as amnesia-producing, a place of no return. But the entity laughed that off and promised to come back after one lifetime.

Centuries passed, and the entity never came home. One of his comrades decided to enter the physical world to go look for his friend. He promised not to get lost in matter and to return with the other individual. More centuries passed, and neither being returned. So another immortal entered physical mass, and he also never came back. In time many members of these unlimited beings incarnated in human form, and the story goes, none of them yet has gone home.

Maybe we are those people, starting to remember who we are. Maybe it’s time to break out of the hypnosis we’ve lived under for eons, the unquestioned assumptions that we must kill and eat, suffer and die, live in lack and sadness, and undergo all the human drama as it has been defined for us.

Is it insane to think that humans can beat the system? That we could make a choice to stop the activities that supply our up-line with fuel? That we could minimize even stop our own refueling from the life force of creatures lower than us on the food chain? Is it madness to think that our bodies, made of undying energy, could themselves not have to die, that we might learn to live on the power of infinite consciousness, which we can access within ourselves, being part of it?

While some may call that madness, I prefer it to the world I see around me. I certainly prefer it to death. I prefer it to loss of my dear ones, and to sickness and poverty. The greatest experiment mankind can engage in is mastery of the principles of freedom, creation, abundance, and immortality. We’re wearing body suits that in 70-some years of use are programmed to self-destruct. What could be more important than changing that programming?

In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna warns: “He who does not follow the wheel thus set revolving lives in vain.” The wheel is the cycle of birth and death, karma and retribution, human sacrifice and divine blessing. To rebel against this system is to fail in our life purpose as defined by those who say they are our creators and gods. But surely life was meant to be more than dinner for the next rung up on the food chain. If “living in vain” means breaking out of that, I’m all for that kind of failure.

Bronte Baxter

© Bronte Baxter 2008

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56 Comments

  1. Pat said,

    September 20, 2008 at 4:52 am

    I am overcome with emotion in reading your thoughts about this life and universe. I have agonised in the same way and thought there must be something wrong with me that I felt so alienated from life itself.
    I, too am sure something better does exist. If this physical dog eat dog, universe, were the only possible expression, then we could not even envision another alternative, but the fact is we can and I’m truly grateful for that fact.

    • mandy sugden said,

      January 28, 2015 at 5:54 am

      Thank you. Upon reading this, the final few pieces of the “life” jigsaw fell neatly into place for me. I feel emotional yet enlightened. My search for a truth has taken me to strange places yet undeterred I push on.

    • Maggie said,

      June 1, 2016 at 2:44 am

      I am drowning in tears as I read your words which are my own thoughts. Suffering daily with this insight has been an unending battle to remain sane. I thought it was me who detested creation for those reasons and am strengthened in spirit knowing I am not alone. It is a curse to have to carry this burden alone but I feel there is something better somewhere.

      • brontebaxter said,

        June 7, 2016 at 7:38 am

        To Maggie and to Pat: you are not as alone as you think. Every week I get emails from people saying they have been realizing these same things, feeling like they are alone in their perceptions. But they’re not. I think mankind is becoming ripe for realizing the truth. You’re just at the forefront of the discovery.

        Bronte

  2. Sara said,

    May 8, 2009 at 6:08 am

    Do have a look at this?

    It’s about sungazing as a safe substitute for food. I think you will like this, Bronte and all others seeking to solve this.

    Love

    Sara

    • Kit said,

      April 22, 2015 at 12:35 am

      I completed only a third of the process (kicking one’s own derriere for allowing Life to get in the way) and yet did reap the expected benefits achieved at three months of gazing. Thanks for the reminder, Sara.

  3. Peter Jennings said,

    September 8, 2009 at 2:07 am

    really interesting theory – thank you

  4. Tim K said,

    November 5, 2009 at 8:11 am

    Yes, it is “Them/It” , “The All Seeing I” group(so-called prime Archetypes), they are in Error, the creators of the “Demiurge”—- they project their Error onto It. It knows not what It does.
    They think they control Creation, they think they are The Highest Authority. NO! I AM THE ALL THAT IS, WAS, AND EVER WILL BE—- speaking through Me Now, I recognize no “authorative” hierarchy within MYSELF, I see an unawareness within MYSELF, that is UNAWARE OF MY WHOLE SELF, it thinks It is the absolute ALL, and must systematize and control CREATION, They are in Error and the TRUTH Will be revealed to Them—- and IT WILL BE UNDENIABLE.
    I Am of THE I AM, Now and always, no other part of Myself is superior to any other!
    This predatory/parasitic paradigm and unaware Self-harming aspect of MYSELF Will Be Healed and forgiven. It is the part of me that Knows I AM utterly alone, Why?, How?, rejected?, abandoned? The “Demiurge” was. But “They” are not alone, and neither AM I, Everything Within ME IS ALL I NEED.

  5. David said,

    November 25, 2009 at 6:33 am

    I am overcome with emotion in reading your thoughts about this life and universe. I have agonised in the same way and thought there must be something wrong with me that I felt so alienated from life itself.
    I, too am sure something better does exist.

  6. Mike said,

    May 3, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    I too am familiar with the writings of Robert Monroe and the concept of Loosh.

    Although I have no personal experience on the subject of Loosh, I have experienced several non physical levels that I’m sure Mr. Monroe had experience with. In the non physical there is so much that can’t be explained or described that I find it hard to fathom contact that is so informative and so explainable.

    If the concept of Loosh is as you have described, maybe our best hope lies in the concept of CHI cultivation. Concerving and storing Chi as they do in Tai Chi and other various forms of martial arts may allow us to retain the power within us and create a freedom we have not experienced in many eons.

  7. Joe Pilot said,

    June 7, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    He who created us in turn was created. Perhaps as you create others some of the essence is diluted. I do not know this.
    In my mind, a God is a perfect being and needs nothing, it is a complete being. Does not need to be worshipped, does not need to be wanted, does not need anything from anyone. Following this line of thinking, we can deduce that some of these protagonists are imperfect. More so when they need to inflict pain and suffering on others so they can collect their loosh.
    Further more, such situation would reveal that “As above, so below”. Meaning that the politics “Up there” is as screwed up as down here. Very sad!
    I went to Monroe’s and attended his Gateway program, did that sometime before his death. While there, we used to have nightly chats. One time we talked about airplanes in a semi private setting. I asked him about the “Loosh” issue and wondered why he did not go more deeply into it. I got the feeling he was not supposed to say, and that he knew more. I did not want to intrude, so I did not go further into it. In retrospect, I should have. He is no longer with us to answer that question. Talking about questions. What do we do now?

  8. Kushta said,

    September 19, 2010 at 1:28 am

    Bronte,

    The concept of loosh is new to me. Is there a connection between the pursual of non-violence, specifically, dietarily, in the form of eating life forms with lesser froms of consciousness as in vegetrainism, that would negate the release of loosh? In both Gnostic Nazoreanism, and its later off shoot Manichaeanism, the adherents were restricted to a non-violent vegetrain diet. The Manichaean’s in particular believed that only vegetabale matter contained particles of spiritual light that were dispersed by the malign creators of this world when they became entangled with the benevolent aeons of light in a primordial battle.

    I believe humanity has evolved to the point, through science and technology, where we no longer have to sustain ourselves through the cruel law of predation that rules this world. Thus allowing us to be in alignment with our eternal benevolent Parent(s) whose image our eternally benevolent souls are a mirror image of. The concept of loosh offers a viable answer as to why the law of predation exists in the first place also giving further credence to the applicability of non-violence as a means to counter the malign forces attempt to harvest loosh. I would like to hear your thoughts on this.

    – Kushta

    • brontebaxter said,

      September 19, 2010 at 3:22 am

      Hi Kushta

      What a great message. If you continue reading deeper into the blog, you will find quite some discussion of vegetarianism and how it relates to the idea of loosh. The discussion occurs between the readership and me in one of the comments sections that is perhaps one, two, or three articles (chapters) forward from the one you’re commenting on here. You may have to poke around a bit, as there are TWO places where people leave comments on each of the “Blowing the Whistle” articles.

      That’s because of a defect in WordPress: if you read an article as a post, you find one set of comments for it (that’s where this discussion I’m referring you to occurs, at the bottom of the post version of one of the “Blowing the Whistle” articles); if you read the same article as a page (through the links on the left side of the blog), you get an entirely different set of comments underneath the article. So be persistent in hunting this down, and you’ll find some interesting stuff.

      I’ll also comment here briefly with some information not contained in that earlier discussion: your question as to whether only vegetable matter contains spiritual light. A Vedic creation myth talks about the world being created through sacrifice, namely the sacrifice of one of the gods, Brihaspati, of his own life. The story goes that he allowed the other gods to cut him up into pieces, which is what they made the world from. The reason the earth has life, so the explanation goes, is that it is made up of parts of Brihaspati’s personal divine energy. This relates to many other Hindu stories and even European fairytales that talk about one thing being destroyed and from it many new and smaller things being born – for instance, a god killed a certain demon, and from his blood falling on the earth, an army sprang up. Or a witch killed an innocent young maiden, and where she was buried, roses grew out of the ground. In nature, we see the same thing: you destroy the living garlic by taking it apart, and from each piece of it that you bury, new garlic plants are born.

      Why is meat appealing? Because it tastes good. Why does it taste good? Because the animal it comes from is good. We eat the goodness. Why is some animal flesh more appealing than others? Humans prefer animals like chickens, cows, deer, and rabbits to animals like cats, dogs, coyotes, or tigers. It seems to be the gentler, sweeter, vegetarian animals who have the sweetest meat. So perhaps an animal’s goodness (we could say the animal’s loosh, and the quality of its energy) is consumed by the animal’s destroyer, and that goodness or loosh gives them energy. This is not to justify eating animals. I think it’s horrible. But perhaps it explains why we have the craving to do it.

      There seem to be two ways of getting energy: by tapping the infinite within or by taking it from something outside. Sometimes the energy is given willingly, as in a love relationship or an employee/employer relationship, where one entity gives something to the other voluntarily. Sometimes the energy is demanded or stolen, as in slavery, emotional manipulation, theft, rape, killing an animal for food, or taking leaves of a plant for food. I think the key to freedom is learning to access and draw from our own inner infinite source of energy and relying less and less on taking in energy from things outside that don’t want to give it to us.

      I have no problem with a willing gift of energy from someone who wants to bless us with it, as the love/energy a mother gives a child (she WANTS to nurture it), or the donation a person gives a charity they believe in (they WANT to support it). Sharing energy and moving it around into various combinations and shapes in the world can be fun, so long as no one is depleted from it (generally, if we give willingly and with joy, it’s because the energy we’re giving comes from a feeling of energetic abundance, and we therefore not depleted by the gift).

      I’m actually working on a new article right now – working title “Strength and Support: Can They Be Opposites?” – which I hope to publish here on the blog in a few days. Some of these ideas will be gone into more in that article.

      Bronte

  9. Gary said,

    September 20, 2010 at 11:04 am

    Read “The Vegetarian Myth” by Lierre Kieth. She tried every form of vegtarianism and veganism for over 20 years and it destroyed her health. She also did a lot of research into the big arguments in favor of vegetarianism and found a lot of interesting info. The biggest blight on the planet is farming. It has depleted our topsoil and it displaces a lot of the wild animals and destroys their habitat. The other main argument is the issue of killing. As you have noted, eating involves the killing of something else (with the possible exception of fruit-and, no, fruitarianism is not the answer). Not just plants, more animals die from the harvsting of grains and veges than from eating meat. Vegetarianism is awesome in theory but in actual practice it doesn’t pan out. I don’t wish to get into any arguments here, I’ve read all the John Robbins books and just about every veg book and have tried it for many years and I’m just throwing in a contrary opinion based on my own experience. I urge everybody to read the book. It’s REALLY well done. If anything it just validates the fact that this is a messed-up planet.

    • brontebaxter said,

      September 20, 2010 at 3:46 pm

      Please could you explain why you say, “Not just plants: more animals die from the harvesting of grains and veges than from eating meat”?

      Bronte

    • Lisajm said,

      March 2, 2013 at 6:29 am

      Many people have debunked “The Vegetarian Myth” by Lierre Kieth.

      • justdoit8 said,

        March 3, 2013 at 8:55 am

        Everything is debunked. I’ve tried everything… turns out I feel my best as a meat eater.

      • gary said,

        March 3, 2013 at 12:34 pm

        Many people have debunked The China Study, too. that doesn’t mean much. read the book. the only form of vegan ism that could consider itself morally superior would be fruitarianism. A lot of people can’t hack it and do have problems with it. Let me, honestly, know how you do on it. I have to admit that a lot of people do well such as durian rider and free lea.

      • Rick Nielson said,

        September 6, 2014 at 1:16 pm

        I agree with you Gary. Great book. Problem is getting vegetarians to read it. They say “it has been debunked”.

      • gary said,

        September 8, 2014 at 1:45 am

        Yeah Rick, there is so much in the book that cannot be debunked – such as the moral high ground with regards to the killing of animals, or the effect on the planet with regard to farming of grains. As far as health, there are people who do great going vegan and there are people who go vegan and do horribly. Then they add meat to their diet and thrive. Go figure.

    • Tamara said,

      May 24, 2013 at 1:20 pm

      ???? Animals have been eating plants ever since they existed. If it wasn’t a worthwhile form of food, why are there so many herbivores and omnivores? I do eat meat, and plants, since humans are omnivores…. but if eating plants didn’t have any healthy merit, wouldn’t exist.

      Perhaps what made her sick was the GMO’s? When they entered out food supply, they were considered safe. Only recently have there been studies clearly linking the dangers and wheat and corn and soy are huge crops for Monsanto and other GMO companies. Most people would get sick and not realize the danger, but now people are starting to question seriously the safety of GMO foods and even to demand they be stopped, or at least labeled. I say stopped. The BT corn is poisonous. So many people now not being able to handle wheat… well, maybe it isn’t the natural wheat, but the GMO wheat that is to blame! Making humans and animals sick, poisoning the land and our bodies. BT corn makes it’s own pesticide inside itself, poison.

  10. Kushta said,

    September 21, 2010 at 4:18 am

    Hello Gary,

    Humanity evolved on meat for thousands of years, and through personal experience I can tell you that I agree that veganism is not as healthy as an omnivorious diet. The strength of the vegtarian argument will always be ethical, in my opinion. Yet, I also recognize that humanity is in a constant state of ‘war’ with nature as is clearly gleened through our dependence on science and technology. It is through science and technology that I feel we have finally gotten to a point where we do not have to live under the law of predation anymore, that we can limit the suffering we impose upon other beings by eating life forms in a much denser form of consciousness like plants, and, animal bye-products that do not require the killing of the animal in order to sustain ourselves. For me, the choice to eliminate animal flesh from my diet is my benevolent soul’s indignant response towards the malign nature of this world. In this way I see the path of non-violence as a path towards liberation from nature’s law of predation, and, the actualization of my own inherent divinity. A form of rebirth, and resurrection, if you will.

    Blessings to you…

    In the name of the Great Life,

    – Kushta

  11. Gary said,

    September 23, 2010 at 10:46 am

    Lierre Keith was a very dedicated vegetarian for over 20 years. She researched the subject very thoroughly and it went against everything she believed (and what I believed, too). She broke her book into 4 main categories: Moral vegetarians; Political vegetarians; Nutritional vegetarians; To save the world. I urge all to read it – if you dare. As far as the killing of animals, I will quote her:
    North America used to be so thick with forest that a squirrel could travel from Maine to Texas without touching the ground. When the rains gave out and the prairies began the grasses ran root to root for 2000 miles…99.8% of the native prairie is now gone…About the only animal that escaped the biotic cleansing of the agriculturalists are small animals like mice and rabbits, and BILLIONS of them are killed by the harvesting equipment every year…don’t forget to add them to the death toll of your vegetarian meal. They count and they died for your dinner, along with the animals that have dwindled past the point of genetic feasiblity…Growing annual grains is an activity that cannot be redeemed. It requires wholesale extermination of the ecosystem- the land has to be cleared of all life.

  12. justdoit8 said,

    July 26, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    I agree with what you’re saying here Bronte. BUT, for example Perennial fruit trees, and also vegetables, such as apples, strawberries, artichoke. Would you say they have more a giving nature? Where they actually produce fruit for us to enjoy? They don’t die afterwards. Albeit the fruit they produce does, but could it be that some things were meant for us to eat and enjoy and take pleasure in? Such as trees that bear fruit?

    • Lisajm said,

      March 2, 2013 at 6:22 am

      I am in the process of switching from a cooked vegan to a fruitarian diet that includes greens and small amounts of nuts. Fruit and nuts are given whereas the greens are picked off but at least the plant is not killed. I think this is the best diet, but I think any healthy vegan diet is good. There is a big community of frutarians online. Bodybuilders, pro level cyclists, ultra marathon runners, mothers and children. And you can get advice from these people. Some have been doing it 5years, others 10+years and some 30+years.

  13. November 23, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    justdoit8 Have a look at this:

    300 year old permaculture forest garden in Vietnam.

    • justdoit8 said,

      November 24, 2011 at 3:37 am

      Yeah, I’ve seen that before. It’s amazing. There is also a much older one in Morocco if you look on Youtube. Amazing when things are in balance. Thanks for sharing.

    • Lisajm said,

      March 2, 2013 at 6:25 am

      This is beautiful, thank you for sharing. This is what my partner and I are working towards creating/manifesting.

      • Lisajm said,

        March 2, 2013 at 6:26 am

        Of course it wont be 300 years old! But I hope it will survive at least that long :)

  14. Tony Sandy said,

    February 7, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    The truth is that to stay here is about competition with others for this space. On top of that we have to fight that which is trying to throw us off this planet / plane. We need to struggle to hold onto our position in time and space. It is like the Chinese water torture – a force is trying to push us away and to stay means facing that pain / damage and replacing what is being taken from us. Gravity holds us here with no damage this way but energy flow is two way – down and in plus up and out. We eat to renew what is being blasted away from us (Like Alice Though the Looking Glass, we need to run to stay on the same spot or life forces beyond our control would simply throw us off this planet / wear us down to nothing through energy depletion.

  15. Michael Pudney said,

    March 7, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    If you have seaweed and eggs while avoiding too much soy and having lots of leafy greens in your vegetarian diet often almost everyday then the vegetarian diet works and is healthy.With (free range)eggs you are not killing anything as it is not alive.Now loosh….if one learns to gather ‘divine energy’ (the energy that is spread out in this creation through the ‘sacrifice’ of a ‘god’ etc..)buy using alchemy then the demonic loosh harvesters will leave one alone…ie they will be repulsed by your ‘divine’ glow…otherwise you get sucked and drained of vitality or loosh regularly…ie.. if you don’t have enough divine glow you get lonely..upset..emotional etc…all this produces loosh for the ‘demons’ to gather and these demons are the rulers of this world…ie they rule this world… so the solution is to be in the world but not of the world…and learn to gather up the god particles so you glow with divine peace and are not easily upset or overly emotional and so become victims of the loosh harvesters.This is I think what everyone has to learn eventually…it’s like the universal lesson of life.Look at the movie “The Golden compass” it has a very interesting story line similar to what I’ve been talking about here…

  16. Curt Smith said,

    June 2, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    OK,folks here is some brutal honesty – feel free to blow me off, but please read it first:

    This world is a manifested dream of hatred and death that we all collectively dreamed to project our guilt about separating from God onto each other – I love nuclear bomb explosions and murder when I am in my negative mind, and it horrified me as a child. Who is honest enough to admit that they wanted to kill another human at least once in their life?

    We are the ‘Someone, Somewhere’ that Robert described, this is what he could not or would not tell us, ‘Satan’ is the universal force that binds matter into solids anthropomorphized into another projected guilt form.

    Also, everyone seems to be forgetting that ultimate Loosh is Divine Unconditional Loving energy, we apparently are here to suffer until we lose our selfishness and desire to be separate from our Source and learn how to produce it constantly. That is what ‘Graduates’ do. ‘Ego’ (wanting to be separate) wants to call all the shots and pretend to be God – we all know how that works out.

    Tim K got it right, it is an error to be corrected by our Divine True Selves. I personally take full responsibility for creating this planet and universe of fear and death and also LEARNING TO BE UNSELFISH AND LOVING! (not yelling, just don’t have a bold font)

    Read up on Lester Levinson, he went free and did not need food anymore, just sunlight. He realized that he created the entire universe (as we all did, it is just a thought of limitation) and that NOTHING EXISTS BUT OUR BEINGNESS!

    Also, soy is poison now – check out Monsanto’s ‘Roundup-Ready’ Soy seeds – even if it is organic, it has estrogen mimic chemicals – not good for men.

    God Bless and protect you this day.

    I AM

    • brontebaxter said,

      June 3, 2012 at 11:39 pm

      It’s good to see somebody’s thinking, but I disagree completely. You equate Satan with God, and the manifested universe with a projection of hate and guilt? This is taking “the ego is evil” philosophy to its most extreme (and logical) conclusion. If the ego, our personhood, the unique spark of life in us that wants to create and do and express from the sheer joy of living – if that is judged as evil and selfish on account of being individual and unique – then of course it follows that everything unique and individual in the world is vile and evil, including creation itself.

      Your extreme conclusion shows the stupidity of the philosophy it’s based on. I trust you live in the city, not the country. Someone who lives in nature, who every day sees the beauty of creation spread out before them, would never conceive of coming to such a silly conclusion regarding the nature of manifest life.

      Yes, there is cruelty in it: creatures taking one another’s lives to survive. But the individuals who do that do it out of necessity, based on a physical need they feel enslaved to. It is not the last word on their nature. I have a cat who will kill a mouse, but she does it because it wiggles and wants catching, in her mind, not because she has an evil heart. She is the most gentle and loving creature by nature, but there is a programming that takes over when she sees a mouse. (Actually, she has risen above this admirably in the years she’s been with me, seeming to understand, from what I tell her, that she is inflicting pain and that this is wrong to do, since she has plenty of food to eat without killing mice. It’s rare now that she goes after one.)

      Also, your definition of loosh is incorrect: go back and read Robert Monroe again, or the above article. Loose is not “divine, unconditional, loving energy” as you mistakenly state – Monroe defines it as loving energy combined with fear or other negative emotion. It is only exuded in an atmosphere of lack or threat (as when we feel lonely or when we are fighting to defend someone we love).

      You’re right about soy, though: not fit for human consumption, it seems.

      Bronte

      • Gary said,

        June 4, 2012 at 3:24 am

        I’m not sure what your comment about Curt living in the city vs. the country means. Granted, taking part in nature is wonderful and beautiful, and exhilarating, but nature is also very cruel and violent. Are you saying that nature is wonderful now or are you sticking to the original premise of your article observing that this whole world is fundamentally flawed and is a factory for extracting energy? Obviously there is a mix of both good and bad in this world but it is certainly not the kind of Paradise that I can conjure up in my mind. Certainly, if I were God I would create something much better than this. Of course that leads to his argument that I (we) did create this place to suffer in, or to your argument to use the Law of Attraction to actually create a better world. Also, you are saying he equates satan with God. Isn’t that what you are saying too? The Creator(s) of this world are not the divine, loving , etc. beings we mistakenly believe them to be. I think w e all agree with that. So, yes, as the Gnostics have said millennia ago that Jehovah was indeed a Demiurge, or false, evil God. This physical universe is indeed a separation from God or the original , loving force behind it all. Would a loving God really create a world such as this for his own fun and entertainment? The big questions are: What do we do about it? Where do we go from here? How do we get ourselves and everyone else out of this mess?
        Having been through the eastern religion circuit myself i came to realize on my own that the system of reintarnation and karma was, at its core, evil and cruel. For a god to come up with a system like that he/she would have to be very cruel indeed. I also see that the killing of the ego is also a system to keep us suppressed and in denial of our very own natural wants and desires. On the other hand, using the Law of Attraction to create a better world for oneself seems to be a better alternative and perhaps the answer to our dilemma. Perhaps we need to reclaim our power and our own godlike powers. Of course that’s what the religions warn us about: thinking we (our egos) are equal to God and that we should be seeking Oneness with God, not separation. Personally, I don’t want to be one with with the cruel bastards, but I do have the desire to hook up with the Prime benevolent power in the Universe. The thing about the LOA that I don’t like, and an idea you have posited, is that of physical immortality. Even if I were to rise above the negative forces of this planet (haven’t yet) I still do not want an eternity in the physical body. I have to believe our destiny is a spiritual one.

      • brontebaxter said,

        June 11, 2012 at 4:30 pm

        Hi Gary

        I don’t see a contradiction between what I wrote in the article and my reply to Curt. This world as it currently is seems to be a siphoning system, but the natural beings who have chosen to inhabit it – the spirits that manifest as the trees and animals and vegetation – are not they beautiful? We find ourselves drawn to Nature because it soothes and inspires us. I think Nature soothes us because by going out in the wild, we place ourselves in close proximity to these pure entities, and their calm spirits heal and restore us. We can love our fellow beings and at the same time acknowledge that the world has been hijacked by predatory entities. I have a hard time believing the world was created by these entities, though. All the beauty and goodness that abounds in spite of them points to an original plan for the creation of the world coming from Someone loving and good, Someone whose desire was to create something joyous and beautiful. I say this throughout my articles, so again – no contradiction.

        As far as your comment about not wanting to live in a physical body forever goes: as a free being, a master of living, you would not need to unless you wanted to. You would be able to dissolve the body at will and leave this dimension, or recreate the body at will if you wished to come back. Mastery is about freedom, choice, and empowerment, not about whether you choose to hang around in this physical dimension or in some other one.

        Bronte

  17. gary said,

    March 3, 2013 at 12:57 pm

    The Myth of Sophia is interesting in this regard.

  18. Pao said,

    April 1, 2013 at 1:31 pm

    On veganism…I have been highly active mentally and physically for all my life, and rarely eat meat of any sort unless it is the only food offered to me. I have never had any health problems eating only vegetables or only fruits… Vegetarian or fruititarian, it doesn’t seem to matter. On the other hand, the consumption of processed sugar seems to be a more pressing issue. The human body seems suited to live a very healthy life without any meat and even healthier without any (concentrated, extracted, or processed) sugar (not the kind found in plants bound up in carbohydrates), namely because of the health issues with this consumption as well as the mental health issues and the insulin spikes that the brain has to regulate heavily (putting it under a great deal of strain and resulting in an imbalance of brain activity) when extracted/processed sugar is consumed.

    For anyone interested, see sugar: the bitter truth on youtube:

  19. Gary said,

    May 26, 2013 at 5:26 am

    Who said anything about not eating plants? I eat plenty of fruits and vegetables.

  20. hippie99 said,

    November 28, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Creator God of the universe. Why does such a Creator that is perfect and needs nothing form creation, designed a world in such a way that the entities in another dimension to cause suffering in this world so as to harvest “loosh”. Perhaps there isn’t such a perfect powerful Creator?

  21. Curt Smith said,

    March 20, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    I heard from some of Robert Monroe’s students that he would never talk about the Loosh Rote – I wonder if the Harvesters threatened him!!!

  22. Scott said,

    March 26, 2014 at 6:58 am

    One thing Monroe talked about again and again was that he knew for SURE that his spirit or soul would live forever. He also indicated his evolution over many lives. This certainly sheds some light on the concept of loosh. I’m not sure how it all fits but I think it’s not nearly as depressing as we think.

    I certainly wish I knew what Robert was holding back but maybe it was somehow counterproductive to our growth

    Also I find it interesting that the New Testament’s main point is that Christ died once and for all as a sacrifice for our sins.

    So much mystery…..

    • WorldGuru said,

      March 26, 2014 at 11:39 pm

      Having attended less than a month ago a Monroe Institute Gateway program I’ve got to say weird things did happen back then and I have not been able to replicate them (more specifically, I’ve not been able to get my bod to relax at the levels I was able to achieve back at the Institute).
      Now, most people get hanged up on the Loosh Factory concept but after that chapter he becomes aware that he NEVER actually ‘manufactured’ any loosh, meaning he still had is own INTERNAL work in order to generate pure and true ‘loosh’.

      Castaneda also provides a hint behind the concept of human emotions serving as food to other intelligences out there:

      ““The flyers are an ESSENTIAL part of the universe… and they must be taken as what they really are — awesome, monstrous. They are the means by which the universe tests us.”

      That’s all there is to it, the universe has checks and balances, one specie, the human one, wanted to ‘test’ itself to see if it was worthy of the gift of FREEDOM OF WILL.
      That’s the challenge, we, as a collective as well as individuals are being challenged to prove we can WILL the universe in a proper and efficient way. We have failed so far (we are about to destroy the planet’s natural resources) but the LESSON will remain on what NOT to do. It is like a drug addict who one day quits such self-destructive behavior, in order to enjoy his freedom from chemical substances, he must have been a slave to it to understand the greater picture.
      With freedom comes power, with power, responsibility, that’s what the collective human specie is working at.
      Gurdjieff also talked about humans being ‘the food of the moon’ just FYI. I wouldn’t worry about it. Plants and animals are food to us and they don’t question their reality, what they may question is HOW they get to being our food (a carrot would probably dream of growing health without any chemical treatments or a hog would dream of bathing in the mud and running around green fields instead of being locked in a ‘gestation’ cage where it can even turn around on its side).
      NOW THAT’S A BIG DIFFERENCE.

    • Kirk said,

      April 4, 2014 at 7:52 pm

      I found a BBC documentary on youtube, Was Jesus a Buddhist Monk? It explains a lot. It appears that Jesus was in Samadhi on the cross, it is well known that master yogis can stop their heart and breathing while in this state and they appear ‘dead’. I think Joseph paid off the Roman guards to let Jesus down, and that he lived. Crucifixion is a standard practice among the ancient Egyptian initiation rites, one has to prove that he/she can keep the secrets even under torture because the power can be abused (look at Atlantis, a black magician channeled anti-matter into his body and it destroyed the continent and caused world-wide flooding – it rained mud for three days.)

  23. hippie99 said,

    March 26, 2014 at 7:40 am

    I don’t believe in any holy book or that Christ died for our sins. Sin is a concept these deceptive/delusional “divine masters” use to make everybody feel guilty and fearful enough to become their total follower. Nobody died for my sins! lol

  24. Scott said,

    March 26, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    I’m not a Bible-thumper but I’m just trying to understand like you. I think its interesting the scripture in the book of John,” The thief comes to steal, and kill, and destroy: I came that they may have life, and may have it abundantly.” Could Satan be the harvester?

    We know that “man” has screwed up religions and used them for evil but that doesn’t make them false. Its just weeding out the man-made guilt and deception man has added to manipulate people. Here is one example of what happened to the early church that few Christians know about and now (over the centuries) the subject has been totally rejected by the church out of ignorance:

    The Roman Emperor Constantine (who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire) married his way into power. His wife mysteriously disappeared. His second wife was his ticket to the throne. Then he had her killed. His third wife was a prostitute (Theodora) who had risen to the throne in the same diabolical ways Constantine had and who lived to have a devastating effect on the belief in reincarnation.

    Theodora feared that her sins would follow from lifetime to lifetime—and this infuriated her. She did not like the idea of karma (what the Bible refers to as the “reaping and sowing” effect through one or more lives of one’s actions). Theodora’s life was filled with lies and treachery. She was not interested in advocated any religion that would demote her in another life. Thus, she persuaded Emperor Constantine to remove reincarnation from Christianity.

    This action was engineered by Theodora and her various ecclesiastical henchmen, who imprisoned the elderly then-pope (when he refused to summon the council) and consequently had him sent to a forced-labor camp for six months until he agreed to sign the illegitimate council’s rulings. It was also at that time that almost all the writings of the renowned Origen, a “Church Father” who wrote about the truth of reincarnation (among other things), were systematically collected and burned. We only know about his teachings because of a few manuscripts left plus many references to his work in the writings of other “Church Fathers.”

    The idea that the soul would go through many lifetimes on its journey toward relationship with God (and that salvation was not dependent on obeying the manmade dictates of an increasingly corrupt church system but was a millennia-long process of experiencing many lives with “debriefings” with spiritual elders in between … as a means of returning to oneness with the Creator, the One, and with each other) was simply too dangerous to the power-hungry Theodora’s schemes to be allowed. And thus, we are all victims of our ignorance of church history, including the corruption and oppression brought in by the Roman Catholic Church from non-Hebraic cultures and traditions.

    • Luke said,

      May 24, 2016 at 8:33 am

      Scott, you are confusing Constantine I with Constantine II. Also, it was not Constantine (I or II) who made Christianity the official religion of the Empire. He merely decreed tolerance for it. It was not until Theodosius that Christianity was declared to be the official state religion and so-called paganism was outlawed. Even then the bishops were not yet so strong that they could successfully persecute nonbelievers.

      There were great struggles within the burgeoning Church about what was to be true doctrine and what was not. Many hundreds of “heretical” bishops were killed during the 4th and 5th centuries to get everyone in the organization singing out of the same hymnal, as it were.

      Finally, neither of the two Constantines were married to the Theodora you mention. The power-hungry bitch you must be thinking of was born in 500 A.D. and later married to Emperor Justinian I. This was a couple of hundred years after Constantine I.

  25. Scott said,

    March 27, 2014 at 12:38 am

    I very much appreciate your response. I guess it makes sense that the flyers serve a purpose for us as we must also serve a purpose for them.
    In looking at humankind’s history over the millennia, it must be noted that we have come a long way. Even taking into account the world wars and various recent holocausts, we are still far less barbaric. Of course we have a long way to go and many questions still leave a splinter in our minds. Seek and you shall find!

  26. hippie99 said,

    March 27, 2014 at 2:49 am

    Is it possible that this life on earth is all one has? Though one may come back in some from, there is no continuity of consciousness. In this sense the new entity is not really YOU. I am very suspicious of any holy book or “divine master” talking about the afterlife as they know it all! What is important is to be a kind decent human being and live this life as fully as possible. Holy books and divine master want obedient followers, not human beings who think for themselves and questions their authority and their inconsistencies. That is not too different from the Ammachi cult. Do some charities to look good, hiding the greed and abuse beneath. There are many good people in the Amma cult as they are many compassionate Christians, this doesn’t change the fact these organizations are rotten at the top!

    • gary said,

      September 8, 2014 at 1:56 am

      hippie99, I read a couple of good books by Stafford Betty and Michael Tymn on the afterlife and loved them. Without going into details , I would normally never trust the sources since there are so many phonies in the metaphysical scene. However, the info in the books is totally believable – to me. It is more the way I would do things if I were a loving creator…It also reveals reincarnation to not be such a daunting task to overcome. It brought me a lot of peace, and like you say, it turns out the most important thing is to be a good person and be helpful to others, no matter what your beliefs or religions are.

  27. Mac Bailey said,

    September 14, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    Mr. Baxter! An excellent ‘surmisation’. Hopefully, you’ll care to examine theory of my own, in comparison to points you have coherently presented in this writing.
    http://courseofact.blogspot.com
    Annunaki Confessional

    .. feeding “emotions”

  28. Luke said,

    May 24, 2016 at 8:44 am

    Bronte, I have to say that fostering a belief that we can will/wean ourselves away from killing other life forms to sustain our physical bodies is itself pernicious. All this talk back and forth about god/devil, good/evil, plants/animals, grains/meat, on and on creates its own loosh. It is in the same category as religious belief, e.g., there is no proof (other than hearsay) that anyone can live off of sunlight. So, while what you and others say about parasitical programming has the ring of truth, we are all on the same merry-go-round until we are literally willing to give up the ghost, so to speak, and leave our meat behind to be devoured by other creatures.

    You know, there are those who say that the Sun and all stars are conscious creatures. So if we feed off of their energy, how is that any different? Well, maybe we are just flies on Sun-shit and that is waste material so does not matter to the star entities! ;)

    • brontebaxter said,

      May 27, 2016 at 12:45 pm

      Hi Luke

      Thanks for commenting. Certainly no one I know has found the answer to this, but I do believe it is the most important question we can ask ourselves. We haven’t come up with an alternative to the present system because 99.999% of humanity is thoroughly programmed never to even CONSIDER that there may BE an alternative. Seek and ye shall find. Don’t seek, and you probably never will find. If we start asking the question — how can we live without being fed on and without ourselves having to feed off others? — it sets the gears in motion for an answer to eventually be found.

      Bronte

  29. joy said,

    May 31, 2016 at 1:49 pm

    First thing….here is NO such thing as a GOOD God.. Sheeeezzzzzzz………!
    There is only a Creator being, the ONE, called PRIME CREATOR…. that brought about this reality where good and bad drama is being played. Any God that is being portrayed as Good, is a thoughtform made by created beings who are playing inside this Game. Same created beings that brought us the concept of Bad. The nearest I can guess is that this Creator is NEUTRAL and any result of interactions between good and bad is what she is looking for.
    .
    Second thing..: Why can’t we live without eating other energy beings.?
    Well, better accept it and be at peace. In the eyes of the ONE, the Creator being,PRIME CREATOR, this reality is NOT REAL. Think of it as a VIRTUAL REALITY that exist only in computer. We exist inside the computer mind of the ONE. The physical universe, our physical bodies are not REAL. We are holograms. We are illusory creations.The ONE , being the programmer, can put in any parameter it wants,…and this dog-eats-dog is one of those. However…we, inside this hologram think and feel that everything here is real.

    There is only one that is REAL, where we are. It is PRIME CREATOR herself., being astute enough to impart in us a spark of herself in the form of an energy Mind being called SOUL.

    So what is the purpose of all these bloody drama..?
    It appears that when Creator woke up from her slumber (inside the Void.)
    she had no way of knowing how limitless she was.Because everything is her,..she had no one to give her any feedback. in order to find out her borders, she created this VIRTUAL REALITY so she can ask her questions and get her answers thru us. In a way,…we are her petrie dish and organisms. We are her mirrors that reflect back to her the answers to the questions she would pursue.We are here to EXPERIENCE, and Prime Creator is inside us/ outside of us,…to LEARN.

    So, there are two points of view here. First, the point of view of PRIME CREATOR…….That where we are is an illusory location, where the illusory drama of Good and Bad, the drama of SEPARATION AND LIMITATION is being played and that PRIME CREATOR is the ONLY player, being disguised as countless sparks,acting countless roles..

    The second point of view is the point of view of the human mind ….
    That we are hapless victims , and we are forced to victimize others in order to live. and it is painfully revolting. I know only too well.

    But now, it’s time to wake up . To know who we are. To drop all resentments. To drop all fears ……….because this drama has ended.
    we now know we are the ONE,
    WE AS ONE ARE THE PRIME CREATOR.
    and we are on our way out of this Game.
    We are folding the Game and dropping the curtain.
    not bad for a days fun work.

    • brontebaxter said,

      June 7, 2016 at 7:27 am

      Joy, you do a great job of arguing your perspective. But the suffering that people and animals endure is far from “a day’s fun work.” And to say there is no good or bad is to say all things, whether they generate help or harm, happiness or suffering, are equal. From the perspective of anyone living a life, that is pure bullshit. Only those who accept the New Age dogma you so well summarize here, deciding to abandon their right and role as agents and doers in this world, find comfort in such sophistry. So if you are on your way “out of the Game,” where are you headed? Backwards, it would seem, to what you came from. Me, I’d rather learn to win the game, to become a master of living and of the physical dimension, expressing in all my thoughts and actions the original, joyous, divine, life-giving intention that was the impetus for this creation in the first place. I agree God is learning as s/he goes, learning through us and our experiences, and much of what you’ve written I agree with. But God is not a psychopath.

  30. Enril said,

    June 2, 2016 at 1:09 am

    We live, we die and death not ends it.

    Why does death and the so called gods require, need our consent. Why don’t they simply take all of our. Is it to decieve?
    To continually trick us into reproduction?
    To coax it’s into becoming and staying as re-producers??

    • brontebaxter said,

      June 7, 2016 at 7:43 am

      Enril, it would take too much space to respond to your questions here. I think if you read the remaining chapters in this online book, you will understand how I would answer such questions. Thanks for commenting.

      Bronte


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