Tracking the Crack in the Universe

Did you ever wonder why a good God would build a world where the only way to survive is by taking life? How long would you stay alive if you refused to eat? You may love animals and grow plants inside your home and flowers in your garden, but every time you eat, you destroy the life of something. A something with a consciousness, that feels and desires to live, as we do.

The other day I grabbed an onion from a basket to chop up, and I saw it had sprouted a beautiful, tender, light-green shoot. It had a life inside it, a consciousness that wanted to take root, breathe air and thrive. Any tears in chopping that onion did not come from the fumes.

I’m not a sentimentalist. I’m a person questioning, increasingly aware of an insidious thread woven through biological life. We are born, we feed, and we die. Life is a process of consuming other living things in order to stay alive as long as possible until death in turn consumes us. We tell ourselves life is a whole lot more, but it’s reduced to that as long as we must feed to survive. If we can’t stay alive more than a few months without food, how can eating not be fundamental to how we define our existence?

Eating is a requirement for biological life as we know it. It’s the thread that holds together material existence. More than a thread, it’s a chain, binding us to the law that we must consume each other. Rebelling is punishable by death.

What kind of God or gods would create a world predicated on killing? We don’t like to ask that, and we find every excuse to avoid looking at this question. But every time a dear one dies, or you find a nibbled bird in the yard destroyed by an idle cat, or you read about an animal that has suffered mercilessly, or another molested child, or a nation ravaged by a quake that’s buried thousands of living people, your mind goes back to that nagging question. Who would make a world like this? Was it truly a God of love?

According to much evidence, it wasn’t. The world was created by something else. Or if it was created by the loving God our hearts insist exists, then creation has been tampered with by someone else so merciless that it barely resembles the original divine vision. The biological universe is controlled by the law that to live we must take life or die. That is sinister. Something there is that makes us have to eat, that makes us age and disintegrate. This is the “something wrong with the world,” the crack in the universe. Knowledge of it works “like a splinter in the mind, driving you mad,” quoting “The Matrix.” Yet awakening to the truth of our predicament is the first step toward radical change. Only radical change can possibly right the fundamental flaw woven into physical creation.

And how well-woven it is. Not only does violence wind through the lives of all Earth life like the fibers of a time-bomb attached to a victim. It reaches out into space, where supernovas implode, collapsing millions of stars along with all living beings on all their attendant planets. Death and devouring are so pervasive most people can’t conceive of a world without them, or if they can conceive it, they label the concept preposterous. Yet quantum physics shows that matter is nothing but atoms: emptiness vibrating. Emptiness does not die and neither does the energy it oscillates. So why must bodies die that are made of up of these things?

Robert Monroe, in his book “Far Journeys,” writes of contact he had with a light being in an out-of-body experience. (Monroe is arguably the world’s foremost researcher on OBEs; he started an institute with trainee/researchers to scientifically investigate the phenomenon.) Reportedly the light being told Monroe that when humans die, their energy is released and harvested by trans-dimensional beings, who use it to extend their own life spans. The claim is that the universe is a garden created by these beings as their food source.

According to Monroe’s story, animals are intentionally positioned on this planet to feed on plants and on each other, thereby releasing the life force of their victims so it can be harvested. In a predator-prey struggle, exceptional energy is produced in the combatants. The spilling of blood in a fight-to-the-death conflict releases this intense energy, which the light beings call “loosh.” Loosh is also harvested from the loneliness of animals and humans, as well as from the emotions engendered when a parent is forced to defend the life of its young. Another source of loosh is humans’ worship.

According to Monroe’s informant, our creators, the cosmic “energy farmers,” intentionally equipped animals with devices like fangs, claws and super-speed in order to prolong predator-prey combat and thereby produce more loosh. In other words, the greater the suffering, the more life force is spewed from our bodies, and the tastier the energy meal for our creators.

This story told to Monroe (which threw him into a two-week depression) corresponds to reports in some of the world’s oldest scriptures, the Vedas, Upanishads, and Puranas of India. There we read that “the universe is upheld by sacrifice” (Atharva Veda) and that “all who are living (in this world) are the sacrificers. There is none living who does not perform yagya (sacrifice). This body is (created) for sacrifice, and arises out of sacrifice and changes according to sacrifice.” (Garbha Upanishad)

Again:

“(Death as the Creator) resolved to devour all that he had created; for he eats all. . . He is the eater of the whole universe; this whole universe is his food.” (Mahabharata)

In the writings of Carlos Castaneda, who chronicles the life and teachings of a Yaquii sorcerer called Don Juan, we find another story of the Divine devouring humans, in this case human consciousness. Reports Castaneda:

“The Eagle is devouring the awareness of all the creatures that, alive on earth a moment before and now dead, have floated to the Eagle’s beak, like a ceaseless swarm of fireflies, to meet their owner, their reason for having had life. The Eagle disentangles these tiny flames, lays them flat, as a tanner stretches out a hide, and then consumes them; for awareness is the Eagle’s food. The Eagle, that power that governs the destinies of all living things, reflects equally and at once all those living things.” (“The Eagle’s Gift,” by Carlos Castaneda)

The idea that man must sacrifice (must kill something or be killed in order to appease the gods) is apparently intrinsic to all the world’s root religions. We find blood ritual, including human sacrifice, in the Druidic tradition, Tibetan Buddhism, among the Indians of the Americas, in Greece and Rome, Africa, China, Arabia, Germany, Phoenicia and Egypt. Even the Old Testament (Judges 11:31-40) has a little-advertised story of human sacrifice, with the Israelite judge Jephthah ritually slaughtering his own daughter to fulfill a vow he made to Jehovah.

While we may not think of Judaism as typically promoting human sacrifice, it more than promoted it if we count the genocide Jehovah demanded of the Hebrews. In one day alone, they murdered 12,000 Canaanites “and utterly destroyed everything in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox and sheep and donkey with the edge of the sword.”(Joshua: 6:21)

In Islam, the situation is similar. Allah, while paying lip service to the immorality of human sacrifice, orders his servants in the Koran to practice jihad against all unbelievers. “When the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war.” (Koran: 9:5)

Peace-loving Moslems interpret such passages as “symbolic” in their desire to justify their faith, much as Christians try to justify Jehovah’s sociopathic behavior with excuses. In many ways, the god of Islam reasons and rants like the god of the Israelites. Could it be the same entity? It isn’t contradictory that he would support two separate peoples, then lead them to fight each other. Not if his agenda is to stimulate and harvest plenty of loosh.

Christianity, the religion of brotherly love, is implicated in blood sacrifice by being rooted in the Jewish tradition. The Bible declares Jesus is the son of God (Jehovah), and Jehovah announces at Jesus’ baptism, “This is My beloved Son in whom I am well-pleased.” (Matthew: 17:5) Where was Jesus when his father was slaughtering the Canaanites? Jesus himself becomes a blood sacrifice, a fact that Catholics reenact in the mass and that Protestants bathe themselves in to be “saved.” Christians are no strangers to sacrifice.

If suffering and death were part of creation that no one, including the gods, could help, there’d be some reason to be more forgiving. I might even buy the story that they need us to support them with our homage and we need them to keep the universe running. But when you add blood sacrifice into the equation, I abandon ship. It’s one thing if the gods can’t prevent earthly suffering and death – quite another if they seek it out and thrive from it or worse yet, created it. And that’s what blood sacrifice, and the scriptures around it, indicate.

When the oldest scriptures of the world tell us we were created as food for the gods, I have to ask myself if I want to live in a universe where that might be true. The fact is, I don’t. I can no longer give my approval to that kind of reality. So if I won’t live with it, I have to come up with something better. I have to find something more fundamental than the physical universe to locate my identity in, and my power in. I sense, as many do these days, that there’s something beyond the universe as it has been presented to us, something outside this box, outside this system. That’s what I seek to know, connect with, and draw from.

Robert Morning Sky, a truth seeker of the Hopi and Apache traditions, tells a story he learned from his people about a race of beings who knew no limitations, who existed far outside this physical universe. One day one of them declared his intention to visit Earth and take on a body just for the adventure of it, for the experience. His friends cautioned him, as this universe had a reputation as amnesia-producing, a place of no return. But the entity laughed that off and promised to come back after one lifetime.

Centuries passed, and the entity never came home. One of his comrades decided to enter the physical world to go look for his friend. He promised not to get lost in matter and to return with the other individual. More centuries passed, and neither being returned. So another immortal entered physical mass, and he also never came back. In time many members of these unlimited beings incarnated in human form, and the story goes, none of them yet has gone home.

Maybe we are those people, starting to remember who we are. Maybe it’s time to break out of the hypnosis we’ve lived under for eons, the unquestioned assumptions that we must kill and eat, suffer and die, live in lack and sadness, and undergo all the human drama as it has been defined for us.

Is it insane to think that humans can beat the system? That we could make a choice to stop the activities that supply our up-line with fuel? That we could minimize even stop our own refueling from the life force of creatures lower than us on the food chain? Is it madness to think that our bodies, made of undying energy, could themselves not have to die, that we might learn to live on the power of infinite consciousness, which we can access within ourselves, being part of it?

While some may call that madness, I prefer it to the world I see around me. I certainly prefer it to death. I prefer it to loss of my dear ones, and to sickness and poverty. The greatest experiment mankind can engage in is mastery of the principles of freedom, creation, abundance, and immortality. We’re wearing body suits that in 70-some years of use are programmed to self-destruct. What could be more important than changing that programming?

In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna warns: “He who does not follow the wheel thus set revolving lives in vain.” The wheel is the cycle of birth and death, karma and retribution, human sacrifice and divine blessing. To rebel against this system is to fail in our life purpose as defined by those who say they are our creators and gods. But surely life was meant to be more than dinner for the next rung up on the food chain. If “living in vain” means breaking out of that, I’m all for that kind of failure.

Bronte Baxter

© Bronte Baxter 2008

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38 Comments

  1. lechatnoir said,

    May 21, 2008 at 10:55 pm

    Dear Bronte,

    I really ‘get’ the part about remembering who we are. As a matter of fact, every time I take ayahuasca, this it the message I get: “Remember who you are, so that you may help others remember too…” Somehow, the plant always tells me about the world as we know it being an experiment, some kind of game designed to accelerate our evolution. Like so many opportunities to learn, ‘good’ and ‘bad’. Aside from the urge to remember, the plant insists on compassion, and if I may add, there’s a certain feeling that we ought to hurry it up a little bit, as if the amnesia had gone on for way to long as it is.

    Thank you for sharing that story by Robert Morning Sky. I remember looking him up a while back but I couldn’t find much about him. Maybe you have a link?
    cheers :))

  2. bill sigler said,

    May 22, 2008 at 2:40 am

    another post light years beyond the conventional thinking, Bronte-

    It reminds me of the dynamic between the Oracle and the Architect in the Matrix series. In this case, the Architect is Monroe’s light being, who lays out the pure unvarnished mathematical truth, while you are conjuring the Oracle because you know in some ineffable place that love is equally as strong as death in this realm. You are thus re-balancing the logical equation with the perverse element of choice. By willing yourself beyond the parameters of the equation, the system itself must adapt itself in some small way, a different kind of energy is produced, one that can manifest a quite unexpected kind of power.

    The world is an experiment, which is why we should be quite scientific in our compassion for all that does go gloriously wrong, for something may be right in the end, we just cannot know it yet. The Lords of Light do give the directive “grow or die” but we cannot know yet if this is because there is more food for them to eat, or because we represent something even more important to the order than the creator predators. As long as we are separate, we make the rules up as we go.

  3. brontebaxter said,

    May 22, 2008 at 3:05 am

    Hi Lechatnoir

    I’m very suspicious of any sources that tell us this world is “some kind of a game” and “for our evolution.” They tend to tell you later on that nothing’s really bad here, all this is that, and freedom lies in embracing the whole thing. Spiritual evolution is paraded as a grand excuse to justify the world’s worst atrocities and to cloak the entities pulling the strings. Of course, a fair amount of truth is laced with the poison: points like you quote about the amnesia lasting too long. This truth portion of the messages is designed to win our trust.

    I’m aware of the theory that the Establishment crushed the drug culture of the 60s in order to shut down our opening awareness. Maybe, but I have a problem with that. It seems to me (as a former user of psychadelics and marijuana in the 60s) that drugs do indeed harm the brain and body (I’ve had slight but permanent impairment of my short-term memory ever since my summer of non-stop pot). I think it’s more likely that the Establishment promoted the drug use of the hippies in order to corrupt us, thus creating problem-reaction-solution (our desire for redemption and purging, resulting in disempowerment).

    When I hear people today say “the plant told me such and such,” I am as suspicious as I am of statements that “the channel” or “the psychic” (told me). We tend to naively think that once we connect with the outer realms (dimensions beyond 3D reality) that anything we’re told there is by benevolent beings and for our benefit. We are especially happy to believe this if they seem chummy and jovial (those good buds of ours, the off-world beings). Any interdimensional manipulator worth their salt is going to jump at the chance to further program the human race with lies by jumping into our channeled, psychic or psychedelic drug-induced communications any chance they can.

    I’m not saying we can’t learn valid truth through some of these sources. I’m saying we’re MORE likely to learn nonsense: a mixture of “new truth” and lies designed to herd the sheep back to the pens, albeit it probably into a new one. The human mind, our consciousness, is, at base, infinite. We are children of infinite consciousness, and as such we have the ability to access that personally. We don’t need drugs or psychics or channels for that. We need to teach ourselves to connect with what we are, to listen to what we have within us. That to me is the only reliable connection with the Source in this age of interdimensionally-engendered deception.

    About Robert Morning Sky. He disappeared from public view about 4 years ago, removing his website, deleting his phone number, becoming unreachable. I know threats were made on his life, so it’s not a great surprise. There is no reliable site online with the works of Robert Morning Sky, but you can find out something about him at

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/esp_vida_alien_20a.htm

    Not all the information on that website’s affiliated pages is accurate. Some of it was produced from notes by a woman who attended Morning Sky’s lectures, and, having attended 17 hours worth of his lectures myself, I recognize some of it as inaccurate note-taking. Still, the website will give you some idea about this man who calls himself “the renegade” and who produced incredible research into what’s going on in this world.

    A question for the readers out there. I actually own a few books written and self-published by Morning Sky. One of them, The Terra Papers, has such important information I’d be willing to personally re-type it and post it online if I weren’t concerned about copyright laws and legality. Since I can’t contact Robert and ask for permission, I can’t do this. Does anyone have suggestions how I might help get this information to the public? Abridged versions of this document exist online, but they are are one percent of the real thing. Any thoughts appreciated.

    Bronte Baxter

  4. lechatnoir said,

    May 22, 2008 at 7:48 am

    Bronte,
    you are absolutely right: there’s a reason why we have a thinking function and we ought to use it. Just because there’s a ‘spirit’ talking to you doesn’t mean it’s not an ass. Besides, yesterday’s spirit may turn out to be something more mundane, who knows, there’s so much we have no idea about. I try to double and triple check whatever information I get, from any source as a matter of fact, and yes, there’s a lot of nonsense out there. The self has a tendency to ‘find’ whatever it’s really looking for, makes the whole ordeal rather perilous to say the least.
    Funny that you would mention the Terra Papers as this is the very thing I was looking for. With all due respect, I don’t think Morning Sky would mind if you made the material available, as long as you think its important enough and provided you are okay with that of course, I mean, the responsibilty is yours after all.
    Having said all this, I vote for a re-type and discreet posting :)

  5. brontebaxter said,

    May 22, 2008 at 9:20 am

    You know what I think I’ll do? I’ll ask any readers who want a copy of the unabridged “The Terra Papers” to contact me personally via my private email at brontebaxter8@yahoo.com

    Assuming there’s not an onslaught of requests, I can photocopy the document and mail it to people. They’d have to send me money for xeroxing and postage. I feel better about doing that than posting a document on my website that I don’t have the rights to.

    So folks, write to me if you want to make any such arrangements.

    Bronte

  6. Mick said,

    May 23, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Hi Bronte
    I believe you’re absolutely spot on with this. It is something I am waking up to and resonate with. Work by a nice Yorkshire lad called Matthew Delooze dovetails exactly with this. There seems to be a big push, through the creation of symbolic and esoteric monuments where energy can be collected en masse, to collect more and more “loosh” at the moment. A big feed, so to speak. Something’s definitely happening big style.
    Keep your thoughts rolling, they definitely help.

  7. Rob said,

    May 23, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    The title of the only book by David Icke I’ve got is “Infinite Love is the Only Truth: Everything else is Illusion”. That’s why I bought it. Since then, it seems to me that the focus has been on the illusion and not the truth. I’d love to hear more about the solution.

  8. brontebaxter said,

    May 24, 2008 at 3:21 am

    Rob, the solution is for all of us to discover together. Any one person who holds up “the answer” probably has an agenda. I don’t think the Infinite is going to give any one person “The Answer.” The point humanity needs to learn, to get free, is that the answer is in each one of us, that self-empowerment, personal choice, human will is the key to freedom. It is very much a matter of the individual taking hold of the reins of their mind and their life and claiming their status as a powerful, creative son or daughter of the Original Consciousness, which by its nature is love and which has a beautiful dream for expression in mass that has never yet been realized. Every single one of us, I think, has to rise to our true nature, and while we can share our experiments with each other and the results, and share our ideas, the “solution” is up to each of us individually. Each of us has to personally discover it. Any other kind of solution would place one person/ some people at the top of a hierarchy of “truth,” and relegate the rest of us to disciples, once again, ho hum, seeking truth and empowerment in someone else’s teaching and experience rather than through ourselves.

    We each have a power line direct to the Infinite. It’s where all that loosh comes from. I’m going to write more about how I think we can access that, and I’m going to write at length about the evidence I’ve found that supports the opinion I’ve just presented in this post. But for now, this comment is the best brief response I can give to your own.

    I think you’re right that the truth-seeking community needs to focus on the solution. The problem is, that’s trickier to get hold of than the facts behind 9/11 or the royal blood lines. We need to patiently work on this together. Meanwhile, laying bare the lies cleans the window so the truth can shine in.

    Bronte Baxter

  9. Middle Child said,

    May 24, 2008 at 6:25 am

    Thank you. There is much to think about in what you write. I have never been sure of anything really, there are so many thoughtlines and all sound reasonable on first hearing or reading. I need to go somewhere quiet and sit and read what you have written…

  10. em said,

    May 25, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Thank you for your wonderful site. An extraordinary book about this subject is titled, “The Nine Deadly Venoms” by Alex Gordon. Perhaps you’re familiar with it. While I might not agree with everything written in this book, it’s most thought provoking.

    One of my favorite passages is when the main character materializes food out of thin air. What do you think of the concept in Jainism where nothing that is alive is eaten or killed?
    A person waits until a plant dies before it is eaten.

    You have mentioned that your generation, the Baby Boomers, has been derailed by cults, psychedelic drugs and gurus. Well I belong to the generation after yours, frequently referred to as gen-x. Most of generation x is not as conservative and indifferent as is popularly believed. However, this list contains some obstructions for gen-x:

    Violence, in schools, suburbs, cities… (you get the picture);

    An insidious drug culture;

    An exorbitant and inadequate educational system (at least in the U.S.);

    Inequality. The “haves” and “have nots” and the separate lives of each group;

    Giving in to an outer focus meaning the societal image of “making it” appearing to be outwardly successful, being somebody, having the career, the clothes, the prestige, the spouse and so forth. Anything to be a “have” so as not to deal with the consequences of being a “have not.” Even if it means doing WHATEVER it takes. Even if it means working 60, 70 hours a week;

    Having conflicting goals. Opposing the status quo yet relying on the rewards it provides or replacing it with a new status quo that eerily resembles the old status quo;

    Corporate controlled influences just about everywhere;

    Debt, debt and more debt. See the entire list above minus the first item;

    and possibly worst of all the solution to all of this, fundamentalism. Notice the tremendous rise in fundamentalist groups of all sorts over the past 25 years or so. These groups have strategically placed their members in useful and desirable positions. Colleges in particular have been strongholds for fundamentalism in action. In some environments just mentioning anything negative about this philosophy can be costly. In my mind, fundamentalism is the opposite of the original goals of the hippie movement. As far as gen-x goes, the conservative ones (who are the minority by the way) are the spokespersons for the most part. This is why so many think of gen-x as being apathetic and not so progressive.

    Many belonging to this generation are taking action over multiple concerns such as, environmental justice, corrupt power structures, racism, sexism, homophobia and animal rights to name a few. Please see the article, “Gen-X explodes” http://www.mothersky.com/skywatches/200710_skywatch.html for more info.

    Also see http://www.mothersky.com/skywatch.html May 2008, “The Economic Storm.”

    Thank you once again. It would be great to learn more about claiming our Original Consciousness.

  11. brontebaxter said,

    May 26, 2008 at 5:27 am

    Em, I’m not familiar with that Gordon book, but I will check it out. I also never heard (until your post) of the Jainism principle of not eating anything living. I’d like to know more about that. I like the principle, but I don’t see how you could eat a dead plant, because once a plant dies it wilts within the hour, and eating wilted food is supposed to be toxic. Do the Jainisms eat wilted food the rest of us would reject? Please share more if you can.

    I’ve been thinking for a while about how you can eat while doing the least damage (until we can learn to live without eating. A reader wrote me recently that she is experimenting with training herself to live on prana, or air. She practices breathing exercises and has reduced her need for eating down to two small meals a day, in contrast to the three large ones she used to consume. Interesting experiment!) Anyway, my own thoughts on this are to find a way to cause the least destruction or suffering from my eating. You can eat certain animal and vegetable products by “stealing” from the animal or plant as opposed to killing it. Some food products (like nuts, fruits, squashes, tomatoes, and peppers) are even supplied by trees and plants voluntarily.

    The principal I’m working from here is that everyone, including plants and animals surely, would rather get stolen from than killed. Food products that steal without killing would include milk and eggs (in the animal products line), and vegetables that produce edible parts that can be taken without killing the plant. A person could take the leaves from things like lettuce, chard, collards and other greens if they harvested these in a way that didn’t destroy the plant, a few leaves at a time.

    What seems the cruelest practice, using this measuring stick, is meat-eating and eating things like garlic, onions and carrots: roots that have no life left to live if you dig them up and consume them. I’m experimenting this summer with planting big onions (the kind you buy and slice) and letting them produce greens, which I will then cut from and eat. That way the onion can stay alive at the same time as I eat “onions.” Also, my rabbits LOVE carrot greens. Maybe I will try them and like them, too.

    Bronte

  12. C. said,

    May 26, 2008 at 8:13 am

    Hi Bronte, as per our discussion about prana breathing that I started in the “forgotten key” article…..there is much info on the net about it, but few quality sites on the topic has much are still woven in myths, dogma and basic incredulity. But this site explains the technique well…
    http://www.geocities.com/aloha3003/TheGreatShift13.html

    I have developped my own method based on the basics.
    Instead of doing it while I’m lying down, sitting, or even standing still, I do it while I walk.That is more practical for me as I train hunting dogs and walk them in the great outdoors three times a day. Generally before my meals -I do it before breakfast and in the evening before dinner.I don’t eat food after the afternoon walk. I can go out felling starved and a few minutes in my practice, hunger simply vanishes.
    I also like that I do it out in nature, in the forest. I imagine and feel myself entering in communion with nature, with all that is..I imagine an exchange energy with the trees so to speak…to promote a feeling of symbiosis….we all know trees need carbon monoxide, and I need the oxygen they have transformed the CM into. ( I know that it’s not really oxygen here that is the key but this is the trick I use to get my mind to move out of the way!)It works for me to do it this way but it took me a while of trying different thing before I found my stride..both figuratively and litteraly!

  13. C. said,

    May 26, 2008 at 8:27 am

    Oups forgot to add this…
    The key to prana breathing, I think, is to establish a flow…to inhale the energy, feel it traveling trough your chakras and release it…bring it in throught the crown chakra, and down throught the others to then be released in the Earth through your feet or the first chakra (root chakra). The more aware one is of how energy circulate through the body, the more one can play and establish a satisfatory flow or direct it to specific places to promote re-balancing of the energy.

  14. brontebaxter said,

    May 26, 2008 at 10:13 am

    Readers: the above two comments are from the lady I told you about who is working on replacing eating with breathing. I asked her to share her technique with us, and she posted these remarks in reply.

    I know this kind of discussion can be a stretch for a lot of folks. Who really wants to give up the pleasure of eating, even if it were possible to live without it? I’m certainly not excited about the prospect myself.

    But I also think that if we are to transform ourselves and our environment into something better than the New World Order, we have to fundamentally alter the way we’ve been looking at things. More of the same-old will just produce more of the same-old.

    I suspect the reason eating provides the great satisfaction and pleasure it does is because of our physical need for it. Doing without it would not seem like deprivation or lack if we truly didn’t need it anymore. Think about how you feel when you’ve had a great meal and aren’t the least bit hungry. If, when you’re in that state, someone suggests you go out for something to eat, the idea is a turn-off, and foregoing food, when you’re in that state of satisfaction, certainly doesn’t feel like depriving yourself. It just feels natural. You’re content without eating.

    If indeed physical life can learn to exist without relying on the food chain, it will be because something better has taken eating’s place. There won’t be cravings or desires to consume. We will live on the fullness of blissful, pure consciousness and energy, our Source energy, and our appetite for physical food (or much of it) will simply disappear. That makes sense to me anyway. Meanwhile, until we learn to function from that state of physical self-sufficiency and immortality, we can lighten our load on other creatures by refining the way we eat, causing less death and pain. And if prana exercises can help with this, it’s something I, for one, intend to try.

    Thanks, C., for sharing your thoughts and experience!

    Bronte

  15. em said,

    May 26, 2008 at 11:41 am

    Hi!
    I mentioned Jainism because a classmate of mine in high school belonged to this religion.

    Excerpted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahimsa

    The Jain concept of ahimsa is characterized by several aspects. It does not make any exception for ritual sacrificers and professional warrior-hunters. Killing of animals for food is absolutely ruled out.[61] Jains also make considerable efforts not to injure plants in everyday life as far as possible. Though they admit that plants must be destroyed for the sake of food, they accept such violence only inasmuch as it is indispensable for human survival, and there are special instructions for preventing unnecessary violence against plants.[62] Jains go out of their way so as not to hurt even small insects and other minuscule animals.[63] In their view injury caused by carelessness is like injury caused by deliberate action.[64] Eating honey is strictly outlawed, as it would amount to violence against the bees.[65] Some Jains abstain from farming because it inevitably entails unintentional killing or injuring of many small animals, such as worms and insects,[66] but agriculture is not forbidden in general and there are Jain farmers.[67]

    http://www.indianfoodsco.com/Classes/JainInfluence.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism

    Info on breatharianism:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breatharian
    http://healing.about.com/od/breatharian_diet/Breatharianism.htm
    There are breatharian groups on meetup.com.

    My favorite solution to the food issue is from “The Nine Deadly Venoms.” Basically, the main character thought of a food another wanted and materialized it (taste, look, nutrients and all) out of thin air.

    Best to all.

  16. brontebaxter said,

    May 26, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    Well here I am again, after having read the entirety of the website C. referred us to for the prana technique. C., my friend, I’m going to pass on this one. There are things in that Kahuna website that I believe aligns it with the very beings we’re working to extract ourselves from, specifically:

    1) The website says that in manifesting we must send “a gift of energy” upwards to “the Higher Self.” What does that remind us of? And why would the Higher Self, if the Source of all life is being referred to by that expression, need our meager human gift of energy? IT is an ocean of energy. The higher self this “gift” is going to has to be the spirit realm, not the Source. In fact, the website is full of references to connecting with the spirit realm, which is the dimension of the gods, trawlers, energy thieves, whatever you want to call them. We do not have to collaborate with the gods to manifest our desires – in fact, it’s a very bad idea to do so. We can collaborate directly with the Source, our Source, and this is the only way to create and become empowered at the same time. If we create through the assistance of “middle men,” as C. calls them, we are indebted to them, and dependent on them. That is not spiritual freedom in my book.

    2) The website instructs us to visualize a light over our heads in meditation, and to draw it down into our bodies, filling us. What is this light? Qaintly, the website does not say. Can it mean a light as in “light being”? Do we really want an unidentified light to fill every particle of our body? Doesn’t sound like a good idea to me! You might answer that the website says we are calling in our spirit, so the light is our spirit, but what does that mean, “my spirit”? My spirit in the sense of my deepest self, which is the Source, the Infinite, or my spirit in the sense of a spirit out there that has been assigned to me, in other words, what others call “my guide”? I suggest that the meaning of “my spirit” here has to be the latter, because we are told to visualize it as something outside ourselves coming in. Our true, interior spirit, the Infinite, is not “out there” but inside every fiber of our being. If we’re seeking the Infinite, we look for it inside, not out there, or over our heads.

    3) In several places the website talks about the “higher authorities.” WHAT higher authorities, and why doesn’t it explain the meaning of this term? Pretty clear to me what that one means, because there’s only one set of invisible entities who set themselves up as authorities. True spiritual empowerment means recognizing that you yourself are the authority over everything in your life, including your manifestations. You don’t submit your dreams to “the authorities.” You co-create them with the Infinite, who has never placed anyone over you. We have only allowed others to take positions of power over us. That mistake has to be erradicated for us to be spiritually free, and that correction doesn’t happen by engaging in practices that are overseen by “higher authorities.”

    4) The website teaches practices that develop a person’s oneness with, among other things, all the powers in creation. It is not a good idea to become one with all the powers in creation, not when some of them have malicious agendas where humans are concerned. It’s important to be discerning about who and what we become “one” with. While in fact all of us are one at the deepest level of existence, the “oneness” teaching, as it’s being taught everywhere today, is a teaching of assimilation. Personal consciousness is subsumed by “universal” consciousness, which I suggest is the collective consciousness of the interdimensional beings whose goal is to control the universe. They can do that if we become “one with all things.” Then we’re just an extension of themselves.

    I still believe energy can be taken in through breathing, and that drawing clean air through deep breaths into the cells of one’s body can energize us at a cellular level, and very possibly lessen the need or desire for food (as C.’s experience indicates). But I don’t trust the specific technique described on the website she mentions because of its affiliation with the entities we’re trying to detach from. Also, I don’t believe prana or breath alone can render the body immortal. Air is a material thing, a physical thing, and as such it can only render as much as matter can render. To become physically immortal would require rising above the limitations of matter, and for that we have to look to something beyond the physical range of life.

    I use a method to empower and heal my body that works and that I made up. It doesn’t rely on help from “spirit” or spirits, only on connecting with my essential nature. I focus inside me, not outside me. I put my attention on the space within the atoms that make up my cells, that vibrating space or consciousness within my body. I then consciously recognize that that interior space is a vibration of the Original Consciousness, the Infinite Source, that is the font of all life, and the parent of me, my body as well as the characters who created and/or dominate this physical universe. I then consciously recognize that their domination has extended into my body, via the programming uploaded into my DNA, a program that includes decay and death. I then tell my body that I am a daughter of the Infinite, empowered by the Infinite because of my status as Its child. I tell my body that it, too, is a child of that same Infinite, and that by the authority invested in me by our common parent, I release it from the limitations of the programming controlling its DNA. I tell it that I reconnect its DNA with the Infinite Source, with Its loving, original, joyous intention for our life. I tell my body that it will now vibrate in the frequency of love, health, vitality and eternal life.

    Every time I do this, my body is powerfully surcharged with energy. I have instantly healed many ailments this way, from depression to migraines to chronically tight muscles, to chronic fatigue. Migraines, which had afflicted me two or three times every month for four or five years, stopped completely the first time I ordained that they cease, speaking with this kind of authority. I’ve gone from being completely physically incapacitated to singing, dancing, and cleaning house at top speed for five or six hours. These experiences have demonstrated to me that the theory is correct: we are indeed powerful, miraculous beings made of the same wonder the Source is made of. We can create anything. We can heal our bodies. I’m sure we can even learn to live without food. How can a body, re-established in an eternal energy source, ever need to consume anything?

    These are the kind of things I intend to experiment with, the kind of things I find exciting. It truly is all inside of us, all the resources we need. But it can’t be accessed so long as we are looking and reaching outward, recognizing anything as having more authority than ourselves. Authority rests with those who assume it. We can be God, but only if we grab on to our status as that. To grab onto anything relative will keep us in limitation, dependence and subservience.

    God acknowledges no one with greater sovereignty than Itself. And we are each that God, expressing as an original, unique person. To bring the two together requires no third party. It just requires turning our attention to what we intrinsically are.

    Bronte

  17. brontebaxter said,

    May 26, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Em, thanks for all the links and information!

    Bronte

  18. C. said,

    May 27, 2008 at 3:28 am

    Bronte you are right…That’s why I mentionned that many sites are still shrouded in myths, legends and lies. I did refer that site because it was the less offensive I could find that gave the technique, but in no way was it an endorsement for the rest of what it presents, which I did not even read.
    It’s difficult sometimes to separate the wheat from the chaff, as there is two thousands years of misinformation, distorted info and just outright lies out there. But we must always bring it back to ourselves..and develop our own techniques, and then even keep those flexible and adaptable.

    As for what the Light force we are instructed to draw to us, I have two very different answers on that, I’m not sure which one is the right one…
    1.I can see what has been called “orgone”: little light particles that are everywhere around us at all times, just flying around…there is dark orgone, and light orgone. It’s a term coined by psychoanalyst Wilhem Reich in the 1930’s.He claimed that orgone was the massless, omnipresent medium for electromagnetic and gravitational phenomena, a Luminiferous aether from which all matter arises. I do see those light particles…look outside on a sunny or overcast day, with an out of focus stare into the emptiness and you should be able to see those light particles just erraticaly zooming around like a cloud of little mosquito.
    2. I think that at least part of the “energy source” if you will, is not so much something we injest but rather something we create…mouvement creates energy right? Well the movement of doing a full, conscious cycle of breathing
    COULD in fact create the energy…kinda like kinetic energy.

    One of the basic law of nature is constant movement. Once one starts paying attention to the way they breathe, one is often surprised to realize how often one doesn’t breathe properly, completely or even at all ( as far as I’m concerned that is the true source of lung cancer).

    Of course the answer could be a combination of the two.

    I don’t think anyone could or should go from physical food only diet to “light diet” overnight…it’s something we need to transition into, at a pace we can be confortable with. The sooner we start, I believe, the sooner we can get our full authority back and not be intimidated by the “coming food crisis”. In fact I wonder if the food crisis will not serve to push more and more people to find their true identity as a spirit being.After all it’s more than second nature…it’s first nature!!

  19. C. said,

    May 27, 2008 at 4:36 am

    One more comment….
    According to my research, Reich’s orgone, Tesla’s high potential energy gradient, ether, Chi, Prana, or mana as mentionned in the bible are all the same basic pure neutral ( or “divine” ) energy wich is the basic building material of all life.
    Personally I believe that Nikola Tesla was the one who came the closest to the truth of energy…and it would explain what why he has been grossely mistreated by the “establishement”.
    But that’s besides the point I want to make here..the best info regarding energy is, in my opinion, the one propvided by Tesla’s work. Thanks to the internet age, his work is resurfacing and becoming known. So, to gain more understanding of orgone, or mana etc…I recommend one does a little research on his work.

  20. Barbara said,

    May 27, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    On a more “down to earth ” level here about killing and eating there are people in the UK and maybe elsewhere who just believe in eating fruit as you are not killing anything then.
    However there is also the political side of things. Where does that fruit come from? Has it been harvested in Africa and sent abroad to pay off debt when the people who grow it are going hungry? Does it come from a regime you don’t want to support? Eating can be a minefield.

    I get some food from the stuff the supermarkets throw out. You have to take what is there so it limits your choice but often the bins supply just what you need. There is a lot of scaremongering in the papers just now about food shortage but you would never know it when you see what is thrown out. There is a Freegan website that you can look up for more information.
    Barbara

  21. Jim Porter said,

    May 27, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    “remembering who we are…”

    Hi Bronte and Lechatnoir,

    This is all fascinating stuff!

    I am currently reading Man and His Symbols, conceived and edited by Carl Jung. In the chapter ‘Analysis of Dreams’ the story is recounted of a 10 year-old girl who has an unusual series of dreams. They are these (I quote from the book):

    1. “The Evil Animal,” a snakelike monster with many horns, devours and kills all other animals. But God comes from the four corners, being in fact four separate gods, and gives rebirth to all the dead animals

    2. An ascent into heaven, where pagan dances are being celebrated; and a descent into hell, where angels are doing good deeds

    3. A horde of small animals frightens the dreamer. The animals increase to a tremendous size, and one of them devours the little girl

    4. A small mouse is penetrated by worms, snakes, fishes and human beings. Thus the mouse becomes human. This portrays the four stages of the origin of mankind

    5. A drop of water is seen, as it appears when looked at through a microscope. The girl sees that the drop is full of tree branches. This portays the origin of the world

    6. A bad boy has a clod of earth and throws bits of it at everyone who passes. In this way all the passers-by become bad

    7. A drunken woman falls into the water and comes out renewed and sober

    8. The scene is in America, where many people are rolling on an ant heap, attacked by the ants. The dreamer, in a panic, falls into the river

    9. There is a desert on the moon where the dreamer sinks so deeply into the ground that she reaches hell

    10. In this dream the girl has a vision of a luminous ball. She touches it. Vapors emanate from it. A man comes and kills her

    11. The girl dreams she is dangerously ill. Suddenly birds come out of er skin and cover her completely

    12. Swarms of gnats obscure the sun, the moon, and all the stars, except one. That one star falls upon the dreamer

    Incidentally, the author goes on to say, ” In this case the father was convinced that the dreams were authentic, and I have no reason to doubt it. I knew the little girl myself, but this was before she gave her dreams to her father [as a Christmas present] , so that I had no chance to ask her about them. She lived abroad and died of an infectious disease about a year after Christmas.”

    I don’t just list these dreams because each one is as interesting as the last. More importantly, they appear to be examples of an inherited, ancient way of gaining an understanding of the world. Indeed the author notes they are ‘closely related to primitive myths’.

    I am no expert in this matter, a novice indeed, but it brought to my mind Terence McKenna’s idea of an archaic revival. If I have got this right, he was referring to deep, instinctive, primitive thought processes which – at least I imagine in McKenna’s case – could be brought on with the help of psychedelics. The experience of this girl suggests dreams are another way for these these thought forms to manifest themselves.

    We may not all take mind-enhancing drugs*, but we do all dream!

    In a later paragraph the author laments Man’s propensity to neglect the power of dreams. If, as it is suggested, analysis of dreams is one way to at least start rediscovering who we are, why then are we loathe to pay any attention to what we experience when we sleep?

    I hazard this educated guess: we prefer our lives to be cozy comfort zones. I understand why so, and it suggests to me that the ‘waking up’ process, which inherently involves a reevaluation of one’s life, will only come on a mass scale if enough people feel their comfort zones are under threat.

    Until that time comes (Neocons, anyone?) keep on sleeping and don’t bother writing down your meaningless dreams!

  22. Jim Porter said,

    May 28, 2008 at 3:20 am

    Hi again,

    I’ve just reread my post…

    “Until that time comes (Neocons, anyone?) keep on sleeping and don’t bother writing down your meaningless dreams!”

    I went into sarcasm mode there. Take what I said in reverse (-:

  23. C. said,

    May 28, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Jim,
    The dreams mentionned above seem to be “loosh” producing dreams…
    I do agree that dreams are valuable tools to get to know our own mind; I have written and studied mine extensively and very productively. But in the context of this post, it is not impossible for “entities” to induce dream scenarios that will make us unconsciously produce loosh. During the dream and afterwards while we fret about it. Those dreams typically will be more intense than most, the emotions more felt and always fear inspired.
    The key to protect oneself is to be aware of one own psychological “vibrations”. The more troubled one is, the more vulnerable, whether awake or sleeping. And this is not a matter of being paranoid or creating more fear. It applies not only to “dark entities” but in everyday life…it’s easier for ANY crook to swindle someone that is only half conscious, either because of being consumed by grief, anger, jealousy, greed**…all are easier targets and the negative emotion itself is what gives the would be “con” the ammo, the opening and the strategy to get what he wants. Think of how many grieving widows have been swindled by a smooth talking gentlemen ( or lady)..there are exemples plenty on the news everyday.

    **Maybe we should revisit and redefine what is meant by the Seven Deadly Sins…perhaps they are more relevant than we tend to assume. Personnaly, I believe they are the seven main attitudes that sever our Lifeflow, the attitudes that are deadly to our spirit.

  24. Jean Marie said,

    November 12, 2008 at 2:11 am

    Dear Bronte Baxter,
    I enjoyed reading your blog. You make some very interesting points.

    I wanted to let you know that at of this morning Robert Morning Sky is back.
    He launched his webstie: http://www.robertmorningsky.com this morning.
    I work with Robert and would like to thank you for your comments regarding Robert’s work. They were most welcome.

    Thank you again,
    Jean Marie

  25. Jesse said,

    November 18, 2008 at 6:50 am

    Basically, there is a principle of corruption in this world, where life has to consume other life in order to support itself. A kind of predatory matrix.

    Have you read ‘The Lucifer Principle’ by Howard Bloom? It’s an interesting read and quite thought-provoking although I don’t 100% agree with everything said.

    It’s not easy to come to grips with this nature of the world. I don’t think it was part of the original plan – in mythical Eden, or paradise, one didn’t have to kill or eat other living beings in order to survive.

    Yet that’s the way it is. I, for one, have accepted it, and I believe that the Native American way was correct – only take what you need, and kill an animal with respect and thanks for it giving up its life to sustain yours.

    The Western world, with its mass slaughterhouses of cattle and chickens; and egg-laying battery hens confined in a space where they spend short, miserable lives unable to even move; shows the epitome of human greed, cruelty, money hungriness and disrespect for life. We kill and consume millions of these animals each day.

    Yet, this current form of the human body is that of a hunter. I believe we are designed to eat meat, and people who do not eat meat become weak and deficient. I’ve seen the sallow skin and lethargy of many vegans.

    There must be another way to exist. Maybe, meat will be able to grow on trees, or vegetables will be able to run so that we can hunt them. I’m not being silly :P

    Perhaps one day we will live on pure energy.

    But for now, I have come to accept the status quo for what it is. Until I’ve reached that level, there is nothing much I can do except continue to exist in this way and give thanks for my food with respect and appreciation that another life form has given up its existence in order to continue mine.

  26. Jesse said,

    November 18, 2008 at 6:52 am

    I must add, that the Jehovah of the Old Testament, and the Allah of the Koran, do seem to be the same bloodthirsty entity. This entity is some kind of tribal war god.

  27. Curtis G. Norman said,

    February 11, 2009 at 5:14 am

    Hello Ms. Bronte;

    I was quite fascinated with your article “Tracking the Crack in the Universe”, as it echos the thoughts and theories put forth on this very subject (that our emotions serve as “food” for some sort of “higher entities”) in a book by J.G. Bennett (himself a student of G.I Gurdjieff) entitled “Making a Soul” that was published in 1954 (Bennett Books).
    In the first chapter; “The Reason for Man’s Existence” , he states: “Man exists on the earth in order to produce energy of a certain intensity and quality; and this energy is liberated through his experiences of joy and suffering and to his responses to the forces of death and birth”. He goes on to say that the energy thus produced is required for a form of life higher than man himself (his words, Bennett was of a previous generation that referred to both sexes of the species as “man” when speaking of humanity as a whole, so please forgive the wording; it is not intended as sexism).
    He goes on to say ” We should not be surprised that we cannot see for ourselves how and for what we are needed. Sheep do not understand the reason for their existence”. He makes it clear that (in his estimation) we are being “farmed” and “harvested” for these entities. All in all a very interesting read, both his book, and your article. I am glad I found your website and I will bookmark it. It is so very surprising to see that there are others out there who see this pattern in life….!

  28. Nash said,

    February 28, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    C. Have you ever heard about the 6 Tibetan rites. People always talk about the 5 tibetan rites, but actually there are 6 and these also require breathing excersises. They are very similar to yoga and they say to have a rejuvenating effect : http://home.acceleration.net/clark/COOL938/Email.Essays/Tibetan.Yoga/Five.Rites.html

    What do you think about these excersises, are they any good? I think they could be quite helpful. What are the differences and similarities with the pranayams and ‘meditation’ excercises you do? There are a lot of practises out there, how did you even know any of this could be helpful in your philosophy of non-eating, how did you even know it was going to work?
    Bronte I’m also curious what you think about this.

    grtz,
    Nash

  29. brontebaxter said,

    March 1, 2009 at 2:38 am

    Nash, I’m unfamiliar with the 5 or 6 rites you talk about, but I am familiar with the link between Tibetan Buddhism and the gods. I wouldn’t mess with anything that concerns it. You can do healthy breathing exercises on your own, without getting into “rites.” It’s the ritual aspect of exercises, typically, where the loosh gets channeled and harvested.

    As far as the non-eating thing goes, this is still just a theory for me. I am not claiming to be applying it in my life. Eating is one area where I still have some personal issues to work out – old programming that needs eliminating. Unless you get rid of that first, just stopping eating could be a pretty dangerous thing to do. How do I “know it will work” you ask? I don’t know something will work until I try it. Life is an experiment, and we are the lab scientists. We try something, watch what happens, make deductions, and learn from it. We’re piecing together a jigsaw puzzle, to use another analogy. You see if a piece fits, and if it doesn’t, you try something else. Bit by bit, the picture comes together.

    Bronte

  30. Kushta said,

    September 22, 2010 at 3:46 am

    This is a great discussion and one that I have been wrapping my mind around lately. In my experience there is an awful lot of self-righteousness surrounding dietary restrictyions for ethical purposes. Lacto-Ovo vegetarians criticize omnivores, vegans criticize lacto-ovo’s, fruitarians criticize vegans, raw foodists criticize fruitarians, etc, etc. I like that Em mentioned the Jains because their approach represents the logical conclusion we come to when contemplating the pursual of a life of non-violence. I would like to submit that the Jainist approach is not non-violence, specfically, but, rather, it is non-harm or non-injury which is far more radical than non-violence, in my opinion. If we take the non-harm approach of the Jains then ultimately we must cease to interact with the world because to do so would surely neccessitate committing harm in on the most macrocosmic level. Even breathing would be a way of harming miniscule life forms through ingesting them into our bodies. What does this suggest? It suggests suicide ( and the jains support suicide through fasting) to avoid inflicting harm in this world and then we become caught up in the contradiction of harming ourselves in the process. Obviously a no win situation. This also seems to deny our purpose for being here because if we take the Jainist approach then our purpose for being here is ultimately to die, which is no different than the conclusion we have come to through scientific reductionism. I severly criticize the scientists who promote such a philosophy of despair in our society and a God who fostered this would not be immuned to such scrutiny either.

    Surely if we are here and we posit God as being absolutely benevolent there must be a damn ‘good’ reason for us being here! Non-violence as it was embodied by Yeshua the Nazorean is a way of life, a path to freedom, freedom from the law of Predation that plagues this world and our species. It is an affirmation of our superior spiritual nature, it is a reflection of the Divine Dominion within and without. When we have become firmly situated within our eternally benevolent soul we desire to manifest the characteristics of our divine nature rather than the lower nature of this world that takes manifestation within our psychological and biological vehicles. We can live in the world and successfully be non-violent because non-violence is a choice, an act of will, non-harm is not because we unwillingly harm life everday through simply existing. Since non-violence is an act of will we can willingly make food choices that do not require the killing or violent abuse of another being.

    – Kushta

    • brontebaxter said,

      September 22, 2010 at 12:02 pm

      Interesting take on the matter, Kushta. I look at it a little differently. I don’t have a problem with taking the life of bacteria that are threatening mine, anymore than I would refuse to shoot a tiger who was about to spring on me or on a loved one. I would regret the act, but if another life form is attempting to take my life, I have a right to protect myself from their violence. Much in the same way I have a right to defend my freedom from a person who wants to usurp it, even if the usurper feels thwarted in the process.

      But to take the life of innocent beings, that to me is a whole different story. When I take a life, be it animal or vegetable, I become the aggressor. The Jain approach advocates stealing from life forms to eat, rather than killing them. Example: it’s all right to take the leaves of a lettuce plant, because the plant itself continues to live and can recuperate and survive after the theft, whereas digging up a carrot and eating it is killing rather than stealing because the carrot dies in the process.

      So I see a marked distinction between what the Jains advocate and saying we shouldn’t breathe because it would kill some bacteria. I believe the solution probably lies in refining our ability to live on the pure infinite energy within, without the need to feed on life forms. This probably comes about by refining our eating habits to a diet that is less and less harmful of life, at the same time as we refine our ability to access the inner power source through meditation and the like. I can’t believe a benevolent God ever intended life to destroy life in order to live. And I believe it must be possible to somehow live in this world without taking life, if only we explore in that direction for the answers.

      Bronte

  31. Kushta said,

    September 22, 2010 at 9:44 pm

    Bronte said: “I don’t have a problem with taking the life of bacteria that are threatening mine, anymore than I would refuse to shoot a tiger who was about to spring on me or on a loved one. I would regret the act, but if another life form is attempting to take my life, I have a right to protect myself from their violence. Much in the same way I have a right to defend my freedom from a person who wants to usurp it, even if the usurper feels thwarted in the process.”

    I agree with you here and would add that Yeshua likewise exhibited the same attitude in his chasing the money changers out of the temple with a whip of cords in order to save the animals from being sacrificed as well as his protecting the woman caught in adultery from being stoned to death. Love protects.

    Bronte said: “But to take the life of innocent beings, that to me is a whole different story. When I take a life, be it animal or vegetable, I become the aggressor.”

    I disagree with you here because we take the life of innocent beings everyday without being the aggressor. For example, while I was walking behind my three yrear old son Isaac riding on his ‘Big Wheel’ , yesterday, I watched him accidentally run over a poor little ant that was hurrying across the sidewalk with some food in its mouth. That is why I say there is a huge difference between an act of willful violence and act of unwillful harm or injury.

    Bronte said: “So I see a marked distinction between what the Jains advocate and saying we shouldn’t breathe because it would kill some bacteria.”

    This doesn’t change the logic in their approach, however. When we take their logic of Ahimsa to its final conclusion it suggests cessation of existence, an absurdity within the context of life’s purpose.

    Bronte said: “I believe the solution probably lies in refining our ability to live on the pure infinite energy within, without the need to feed on life forms. This probably comes about by refining our eating habits to a diet that is less and less harmful of life, at the same time as we refine our ability to access the inner power source through meditation and the like. I can’t believe a benevolent God ever intended life to destroy life in order to live.”

    Nor can I believe that a benevolent God ever created this law of predation that you are speaking of. If the creator of this world were truly benevolent why didn’t ‘he’ (I intentionally use androcentric language here because I believe the malign forces are masculine in nature) create us to synthesize food directly from carbon dioxide using energy from light like Photosynthetic organisms do? For beings like us who are painfully conscious of this life preying on life phenomenon, I become even more outraged over the fact that there are life forms living in our midst that exist outside of predation’s bloody confines.

    To me the whole biological system is a sham. I simply focus my attention on doing what I came here to do, and let the dead bury the dead leaving to Caesar what is Caesar’s.

    – Kushta

    • brontebaxter said,

      September 23, 2010 at 2:22 am

      I don’t see how a 3-year-old accidentally stepping on an ant is evidence that taken to its logical conclusion, the Jain approach to life would cause cessation of existence. When we are more in tune with our inner infinite, that helps eliminate accidents (like accidentally stepping on a life form).

      I also don’t agree, for the record, that predatory entities are exclusively masculine. Just google “the goddess Kali” for evidence. She is, in India, “the divine feminine” – mother of the universe, they say – and she is a bloodthirsty demon in fact, depicted in Indian art with her red, blood-dripping tongue hanging out of her mouth, and with a necklace of human blood-dripping skulls.

      Bronte

  32. Kushta said,

    September 23, 2010 at 6:31 am

    I used my son as an example of the inevitability of inflicting harm upon other beings unwillingly. Not as an example of the logic behind the Jainist doctine of Ahimsa, and, consequently, cessation of existence. The point is their doctrine is based on non-harm and when we take non-harm to its logical conclusion it points to not interacting with the world and cessation of existence to avoid inflicting harm.

    – Kushta

    • brontebaxter said,

      September 23, 2010 at 10:28 am

      No, it does not point to that. That’s a distortion of what the Jainists are saying. Avoiding harm to other beings does not mean we refuse to interact with the world. It does mean we must be more careful about stepping on things, perhaps!

      My point was that if you combine a philosophy of non-harm with an effort at being more in tune with the rest of life from the level of the infinite which we all are connected to, then mistakes like stepping on a living thing are less likely, because you are more in harmony with all life. In the same way a dancer is less likely to step on his dance partner’s feet if he is better attuned to her. Attunement to the infinite that underlies all creation brings grace in dealing with all creation. Better attunement develops from contact with the infinite within through such practices as proper meditation.

      I haven’t written much about meditation here, and perhaps should write an article on the kind of recommend. It’s easy to say what I recommend against: mantra meditation, which invites syphoning and ultimately possession by the gods, and Buddhist meditation, which simply observes thoughts (as opposed to focusing the attention on the inmost self, which is the proper task of meditation). Buddhist meditation creates a very passive state that, like mantra meditation, makes it easy for disembodied entities to enter one’s consciousness and work their will there.

      Bronte

  33. Kushta said,

    September 24, 2010 at 12:28 am

    I’m not saying that the Jainist’s say that we should cease to exist in order to avoid inflicting harm in the world. What I’m saying is that if we want to follow that path to its logical conclusion (being to commit the least amount of harm to life) it points to either not interacting with the world at all or cessaion of existence, because to exist and interact with the world inevitably leads towards unwillingly causing harm to life. The fact that many Jains wear cloth over their mouth to avoid accidentally ingesting insects and bacteria susbtantiates my position. They also believe in suicide (‘mastering death’ they call it) by way of fasting which coincides with my point about cessation of existence.

    A dancer and ‘her’ partner are focused on each other in order to learn to be in synchronicity with one another, which is far different from the impossibility of us of being in synchronicity with the multiplicity of manifest life forms on this planet.

    All mantra meditation is not used by the malign forces of this world to prey upon us. It depends on the name of God or form of divinity we are communing with and its inherent spiritual charcteristics or nature as to whether it is a benevolent or malevolent source that you are alligning your consciousness with. There is great power implicit in divine names and we should be very conscientious about what sort of being we are developing that state of spiritual intimacy with.

    Buddhism is a pyschological philosophy cloaked in religious nomenclature and paraphenalia. Buddhist meditation is not even ‘meditation’ in the ultimate sense because the very foundation of Buddhism is atheisitic. If there is no ‘God’, and no ‘soul’ there can be no ‘spirituality’. Furthermore, no god + no soul + no form + no persona = no relationship, no beauty, and no love.

    Meditation is communing with our soul, and through greater stages of awareness through intimacy with our SELF, communing with God through the medium of our soul – God’s living image.

    “Child of God, Light of Light, trandscendent bane to those who walk by night”

    – Kushta

  34. Gdbowen said,

    October 18, 2015 at 4:37 am

    So I have been reading a lot into this theory and believe one thing is fact and that is we have no idea wtf is going on. We have been lied to our whole excistance but in the end who really gives a shit. You wanna fight against the thing that created your very excistance. Become a useless worker then I’m sure your card will be pulled soon. I wanna produce the finist loosh and become a model employee. Sounds like better benefits then my current job. I go out of my way to pursue even the smallest animal into it flight or fight mode. Distilled fine loosh. If it’s what I am made for so be it.

    • brontebaxter said,

      October 19, 2015 at 2:21 pm

      Gdbowen, then you choose to accept your lot as a slave.


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